Skeptic Project

In my personal experience most of the people who talk about legalization for medical reasons just use it as a shoe-in for total legalization, they're only trying to piggy back on the emotions people have for the suffering. The reality is many don't give a rats ass about them, it's just an arguing point.

There are plenty of other, legal drugs out there that solve the same problems, but they're automatically cast aside simply because they don't fit within the framework of drug legalization. That or it's some sort of "it must be natural" thing, which is based on woo-woo anyway.

@The Real Roxette

I agree 100% with your post.

//I'd be in favor of heavy fines and mandatory community service and not incarceration.//

I think that is a better alternative than jail time.

Is there any reason why marijuana is assigned in the first place over some other treatment?

For example, I think it's Massachusetts that has a law that if you are caught with less than a certain amount of smoke, you pay a fine and it gets confiscated. If you are caught with large amounts, they take you in.

That's the way I think we should be treating the issue. Putting someone in jail because they smoke pot doesn't guarantee that they'll stop once they get out.

The ones who deal pot are the ones that should face the stiffer punishments.

That's one thing about San Francisco that makes me sick. You can't go certain places without someone blowing their pot smoke all over your face.

@ Matt

"Laws exist because people do not exhibit enough personal responsibility and rational behavior to not need them. I see no difference in the case of drugs. Step outside your little bubble of what you want and what you like and you'd figure it out."

I agree people are just not educated but should we create laws for stupid people or just let them kill themselves off with drugs? I'm all for saving people but i for one cannot save someone that doesn't want to be saved if you catch me on this and if the want to do drugs then by all means don't let me stop you.

Laws begin to fail at the federal and state levels when the dictate such stadards at the local level. No one law can embody everybody therefore I think it be best to leave such things up to the local law, such as drugs, and not the state and federal pound me in the ass prisons. I'm sure Muertos may chime in as to why that is and frankly I don't care why that is I'm using logic and reason of what should happen in my opinion. For instance if a local town legalizes pot in there area then so be it, if another town frowns upon it then so be it, it works it's simple everybody is good.

@Matt good question. I guess the way we do it now would work. Example prostitution is illegal in all states but Nevada (I think). Prostitution still occurs in all the states even though it's illegal and at that if a person is caught doing this in other states other than Nevada it is illegal and they will pay by being process in the court of law unless in Nevada.

@Matt true, and another example would be alcohol. If you go to Canada it's 18-19 (depending on location), and in america it's 21 years of age. if you get caught drinking in american if your 19 then you pay the price if you get caught drinking in Canada then your perfectly fine. Since Canada hits a lot of US state borders it wouldn't be surprising to see a trend between the age of 18-20 from the U.S. traveling to Canada to drink if for some reason they can't manage to score a drink down in the U.S. (which would be surprising considering the states in the U.S. that are on the border of Canada.)

Also consider that fact I live in Ohio. I've been to canada a few times I know how easy it is to get up there.

Legal Drinking Age in Canada

http://canadaonline.about.com/od/canadianlaw/g/drinkingage.htm

@The Real Roxette not sure what you mean? Do you mean the concept of a state should be abolished and we should have one centralized government?

@Matt I agree, in complexity comes simplicity

//You can't export pussy by wrapping it in duct tape and putting in your door panel.//

But man if we could!

@The Real Roxette I understand, yeah it's pretty weird I agree. And what you mention about tobacco and sex offences can lead to pound me ass federal/state prisons. Anyways would that be suggesting you'd like something like a state unification or were you just pointing out how odd state law is?

Matt, you may consider yourself left of center. But I bet anything I own that if you lived here for a month, you'd have to pop half a bottle of aspirin every day just to deal with the hippie lunacy.

Same goes for a lot of you.

@ Snob Goblin,

Are you suggesting that there actually is hippie lunacy, or are you suggesting there aren't real liberals here? Either way, some qualification on the statement is required.