Skeptic Project

Hi,

I just joined the site. After lurking for a while and reading the various take downs of Fresco and Joseph here, I realized the error in my thinking in supporting them.

However, as I understand, many of you fit this description, I've brought cookies...in that I have actually been on the venus project tour. Feel free to ask whatever you like about it.

I sent jock a free sample of depends.
I would appreciate your thoughts on his tour
and a play by play.

hey i'm new too

For a group that gets so mad over things like disposable forms forks I always wondered why they hand out disposable plastic cups for drinks at the facility. Is it true they do that, or are they living up to their ideology and using washable cups now.

Also is it true they don't have a solar or wind generator on the premises? I would ask about a geothermal heater but this is Florida, so scratch that. Do they have any kind of green renewable energy source?

Does Fresco still use that nitinol (memory wire) gimmick even though it's pretty much the idea that you can build a car or a building with it would be nearly indefeasible?

Sorry, no house of depends.

They start you off with a little presentation in front of a makeshift stage on one of their porches where fresco goes over his basics. When I was there, he also complained about people implying he was a child molester as a way to discredit him.

After the standard fresco stuff, he took us on a walking tour of the place. There are 6 or so buildings, built in a strange but not unpleasant short dome style. 2 seemed to be living quarters and the others were a combination of library, workshop, and display of fresco's many many small models, table after table of them. There were hundreds. Then there was a tour of the grounds. Its a nice little place with ponds, nice looking local trees and a well manicured lawn.

I didn't see any blueprints or anything that looked like a storage spot for them. Fresco has a huge library of extremely old books. He happily discussed them, nearly all relics from the 30s and 40s, by what I saw. As we walked, he and roxanne meadows and the others there freely answered questions from the adoring, cultish throng who were among the tour group.

Honestly, the worst part of the tour was the other guests. The residents of tvp were nice enough. They didn't act superior, fed us and answered any questions brought up. We all left with several dvds and the book 'the best money can't buy'.

Don't get me wrong, though they were nice, I wasn't impressed. A lot of the talking we heard was the same thing in the zeitgeist movies had various tvp films and youtube clips. I saw no indication of blueprints, no sources of alternative energy or anything like hydroponics and nothng in development.

Sorry it took me so long to reply. I'll try to be quicker in the future.

"When I was there, he also complained about people implying he was a child molester as a way to discredit him."

He does this all perfectly well on his own, he doesn't even need an expose of this magnitude to make him look shady.

"As we walked, he and roxanne meadows and the others there freely answered questions from the adoring, cultish throng who were among the tour group. Honestly, the worst part of the tour was the other guests."

I can imagine, the TVP fanbase are some of the most cringeworthy fans that exist.


" I saw no indication of blueprints, no sources of alternative energy or anything like hydroponics and nothng in development. "

Yup 'do as I say, not what I do' is the motto of Fresco.

haha I wouldn't pay Fresco more than $100 just so I could make money on beverage and food sales. Everything he says can be heard for free on the internet.

This about sums up what will go on in TVP.

Animal fiddling will be fair game.

http://other.skepticproject.com/forum/3511/funniest-jacque-fresco-quote-ever/

No solar panels or wind generators?

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I didn't see any

Do as I say, not as I do. amirite?

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