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VTVPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:00
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"As far back as one month, the posts were no different than they appear now. This begs the question of why they would be doctored back between March and April, but the post by James Kush would only appear now."

I already told you he would of modified them right away. And they would not of appeared on the blog until he authorized them to do so.

Now, if you look at the page again, you will see he is listed as commenting the very next day. March 18, 2011 at 2:13 am.

Yet for some reason he did not feel the need to expose this big find until two months later? Why didn't he blog about it right away?

Then we look again at the total lack of motive. March was before the problems with TVP and TZM, my radio show was still featured on Peter's website. I had no reason to do any of that, so why would I?

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The Burger KingPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:01
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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@Falkner your right on this. Never mind VTV I don't care what your motives are don't waste your time trying to explain it.

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anticultistPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:03
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And I already pointed out that he could of used the edit function to change them.

And since there is no evidence to verify this yet we are expected to believe you. You are basically asking us to trust a known liar [you Neil] on his word.

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JimJesusPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:03
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Like seriously, how is he supposed to feel smart walking away from this when he says shit like "This is another reason none of this would ever go down in a court of law."

I'm suing you, Neil. For being a fat disgusting liar and a LARP cheater. There's laws against that you know? Jesus on a stick, he's an idiot.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:04
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So why change them as soon as they were created? was he always planning this almost two months in advance? You would require evidence for that, and again the only hard evidence available does not support this theory- only assertion and hearsay. Furthermore, the original theory was that there were photoshops, which is not the case. There is no body of evidence to support this second theory.

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Agent MattPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:05
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Don't care about your motives Neil. You're a crazy person. Therefore trying to guess your motives is irrelevant because you're crazy. I don't know what guides your crazy mind to do the things you do and I don't want to know.

At this point I'm pretty comfortable with the opinion that you did it.

And that's all there really is to it.

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VTVPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:06
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"Again, Im not interested in bald assertions and motives as evidence- I'm interested in the hard facts, and as of now there is no evidence to suggest there was any doctoring done, and still a gap in the time line between the earliest cache of the website, in April, and now. Now you're creating this wall for the evidence such that even if it emerges it can't be trusted. But what is available does not support your allegations. That's the only thing I'm interested in."

Evidence that can easily be changed is not admissible for a reason. The burden of proof is on the accuser.

We have already established that he could of easily changed my posts with the edit feature. And as a result, the evidence is unreliable at best. The person presenting the evidence itself is known to engage in dishonest activities. And that's taken from the opinions of people here.

Establishing motive is also a critical part of this process, and you have not done so.

At the end of the day, I can easily prove that he could have, and had motive to do so.

You cannot prove that he didn't. So the best you have to go on is some evidence provided by an obviously hostile witness, that could easily be doctored. And no motive whatsoever for the crime in question.

James Kush if he did do as I suggested is not going to hand you the evidence that he did. And there is no way for you to verify that any information he does give you is genuine.

"It's all about the he said she said bull shit...."

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anticultistPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:07
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VTV said:

I already told you he would of modified them right away. And they would not of appeared on the blog until he authorized them to do so.

Now, if you look at the page again, you will see he is listed as commenting the very next day. March 18, 2011 at 2:13 am.

Yet for some reason he did not feel the need to expose this big find until two months later? Why didn't he blog about it right away?

In James Kushes own words:

Sometime ago, Neil “beggar/vagabond” Keirnan posted on my blog the facebook links of Peter Josephs mom and dad. Their personal name, photos, relatives, and data about their residence was obviously part of their facebook pages. It was not the first time Neil Kiernan had led me to critical information regarding Peter Joseph before, Peters personal address had also been revealed to me by Neil Kiernan himself thru a youtube channel. At this point I should say that I have never published, nor will I ever, information about Peter Josephs home address or information about his family, especially his parents. I felt that these “leaks” by the former failed politician Neil Kiernan was nothing more than a ploy to lure me into disclosing information that would make me look like a total jerk and cruel at best. So I ignored both attempts to disclose Peters home address and information regarding his parents personal information.

I moved on and forgot about VTVs leak strategy.

Then I came across a comment VTV made recently, several weeks ago, where he himself is going around facebook discussing how Peter Josephs parents info was available on my site, thru a post he made, in which he contends I impersonated him. So lets think about this, he leaks sensitive information, it gets ignored, MONTHS later he himself reports to zeitgeist members that Peters parents had been exposed on this blog thru his own post. Clearly his strategy failed and he has only exposed himself as a turncoat of the Zeitgeist Movement, a traitor and a sellout of Peter Joseph.

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VTVPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:07
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"And since there is no evidence to verify this yet we are expected to believe you. You are basically asking us to trust a known liar [you Neil] on his word."

And you have yet to prove that I am a known liar at all.

Yet people here have already admitted that even they have seen that James Kush lies on his blog. :)

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Agent MattPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:09
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If James Kush lets me login to his blog and I see that you're right, I'll have no problem admitting such. This is just some website I kill time on, its not like my ability to pay my bills relies on my e-reputation. I don't need to beg for money with a widget on a blog.

But I must admit, I'm not too worried about being wrong here. The posts in questions are not Photoshopped, regardless of that being your original explanation. So you found a new plausible loophole to wiggle through. That's just what you do.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:09
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I have not done so because I'm not about to guess the motives of people I don't know. Your first theory of the photoshop was not true. Your second theory possesses no evidence, only an assertion. And it still doesn't fill the two month time gap. The posts were the same a month ago, this would have to require a pretty, far sighted plot that is weirdly specific.

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VTVPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:09
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"Don't care about your motives Neil. You're a crazy person. Therefore trying to guess your motives is irrelevant because you're crazy. I don't know what guides your crazy mind to do the things you do and I don't want to know.

At this point I'm pretty comfortable with the opinion that you did it.

And that's all there really is to it."

Matt, we have never spoken in length ever. We have certainly never spoken in person. And the suggestion that I am simply crazy from you a person who would be unqualified to diagnose that even if we ever did speak in length is not justification either.

I am having fun watching you guys squirm here.

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Agent MattPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:11
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Crazy isn't a diagnosis. Its an adjective.

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anticultistPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:11
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Yet people here have already admitted that even they have seen that James Kush lies on his blog. :)

Noone said any such thing, what was said by jim jesus was that James Kush makes mistakes and then has to rectify it after evidence contrary to the initial posts surfaces.
Dont try and stretch peoples comments here into something they did not say.

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The Burger KingPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:14
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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@VTV

James Kush if he did do as I suggested is not going to hand you the evidence that he did. And there is no way for you to verify that any information he does give you is genuine.

VTV you are suggesting that you can read a persons mind and at that read a persons mind in a event that hasn't occurred yet. I'd like to see your credentials in mind reading into the future before we precede any further down this path. If not, I'm sure you can understand how people cannot simply take your word for it.

What makes you think the evidence he provides is going to not be genuine besides the fact that you would indicate you can read peoples minds even into the future. Nanos has already pulled that one on CS and I will not be fooled again!

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VTVPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:14
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"I have not done so because I'm not about to guess the motives of people I don't know. Your first theory of the photoshop was not true. Your second theory possesses no evidence, only an assertion. And it still doesn't fill the two month time gap. The posts were the same a month ago, this would have to require a pretty, far sighted plot that is weirdly specific."

And my second theory proves that the evidence itself could be easily doctored. So it would not be admissible.

If that is good enough for you, I again find it odd that the "conspiracy debunking experts" are so loose on their requirements for evidence.

If Dick Cheney posted on a blog that he plotted 911 and he later denied it. And all the evidence you had was a truther saying it was on a comment on his blog that the truther in question would have access to the ability to edit at any time you would not be suddenly writing apology blogs about all the things you have said about 911 truthers.

But again, I found this amusing. And I will add it to my archive of other ridiculous bullshit that goes on here.

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JimJesusPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:15
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I think this is Neil:

Compensatory Narcissistic Personality Disorder as a pervasive pattern of unstable, "overtly narcissistic behaviors [that] derive from an underlying sense of insecurity and weakness rather than from genuine feelings of self-confidence and high self-esteem" (Millon), beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by ten (or more) of the following:
seeks to create an illusion of superiority and to build up an image of high self-worth (Millon);
has disturbances in the capacity for empathy (Forman);
strives for recognition and prestige to compensate for the lack of a feeling of self-worth;
may acquire a deprecatory attitude in which the achievements of others are ridiculed and degraded (Millon);
has persistent aspirations for glory and status (Millon);
has a tendency to exaggerate and boast (Millon);
is sensitive to how others react to him or her, watches and listens carefully for critical judgment, and feels slighted by disapproval (Millon);
is prone to feel shamed and humiliated and especially hyper-anxious and vulnerable to the judgments of others (Millon);
covers up a sense of inadequacy and deficiency with pseudo-arrogance and pseudo-grandiosity (Millon);
has a tendency to periodic hypochondria (Forman);
alternates between feelings of emptiness and deadness and states of excitement and excess energy (Forman);
entertains fantasies of greatness, constantly striving for perfection, genius, or stardom (Forman);
has a history of searching for an idealized partner and has an intense need for affirmation and confirmation in relationships (Forman);
frequently entertains a wishful, exaggerated, and unrealistic concept of himself or herself which he or she can't possibly measure up to (Reich);
produces (too quickly) work not up to the level of his or her abilities because of an overwhelmingly strong need for the immediate gratification of success (Reich);
is touchy, quick to take offense at the slightest provocation, continually anticipating attack and danger, reacting with anger and fantasies of revenge when he or she feels frustrated in his or her need for constant admiration (Reich);
is self-conscious, due to a dependence on approval from others (Reich);
suffers regularly from repetitive oscillations of self-esteem (Reich);
seeks to undo feelings of inadequacy by forcing everyone's attention and admiration upon himself or herself (Reich);
may react with self-contempt and depression to the lack of fulfillment of his or her grandiose expectations (Riso).

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MuertosPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:16
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And my second theory proves that the evidence itself could be easily doctored. So it would not be admissible.

Sorry, where did you go to law school?

That's not even close to what real evidentiary standards are like.

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Agent MattPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:17
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He was a 711 clerk, that's kind of like going to law school isn't it?

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:17
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Um excuse me, that's not the point here. I'm actually after hard evidence, but you're now trying to erect a wall that would bar any future evidence from being valid. I find that odd. Your strange parable defies the pragmatic nature of what is actually transpiring. You had one theory that fell apart, and now youre on this second one. I also find it odd that you commented on Chris Jenning's that you had been impersonated, but the first theory you came here with was that there were photoshops.

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anticultistPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:17
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If Dick Cheney posted on a blog that he plotted 911 and he later denied it. And all the evidence you had was a truther saying it was on a comment on his blog that the truther in question would have access to the ability to edit at any time you would not be suddenly writing apology blogs about all the things you have said about 911 truthers.

Truther alert !!

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JimJesusPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:20
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9/11 was a cult job, zeitard.

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anticultistPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:20
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Kaiser said to VTV:

Um excuse me, that's not the point here. I'm actually after hard evidence, but you're now trying to erect a wall that would bar any future evidence from being valid. I find that odd. Your strange parable defies the pragmatic nature of what is actually transpiring. You had one theory that fell apart, and now youre on this second one. I also find it odd that you commented on Chris Jenning's that you had been impersonated, but the first theory you came here with was that there were photoshops.

VTV is repeatedly stretching the ability for any evidence offered up kaiser, as I posted an image elsewhere I am going to have to provide a fresh one to keep originality:

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VTVPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:21
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Anti-cultist, this was said earlier by Jim Jesus:

"I will admit this:
I have seen Mario use very sensational and sometimes misleading titles for his videos and blogs. I have seen Kush publish information that turned out inaccurate when new evidence has surfaced. I can't speak for the occult aspects of it as I am not well versed in occultism. (note: occult isn't a cult)"

So yes, someone said such a thing. :)

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anticultistPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:22
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You said someone said James Kush lies on his blog.

Noone said any such thing even that quote you just supplied doesnt say it, so the only person saying it here is you.

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JimJesusPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:22
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Too bad this isnt' sensationalized or can be refuted by later evidence. You left the bloody glove at the scene.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:24
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HAIL HYDRA

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VTV, why did you post to Jennings that you were impersonated, but then suggested here that they were photoshops before coming back to this theory of impersonation?

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VTVPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:24
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@Meurtos:
"That's not even close to what real evidentiary standards are like."

Ok, so you are telling me that someone could be convicted of a crime based on something said in the comments on a blog, wherein the blog has the ability for the person who in this case is a hostile witness to edit it to say whatever they want?

Your trying to tell me that a judge would allow someone to be convicted for anything based on that?

If any of you posted on a word press blog that I owned I could edit anything you said there. That much is not in question.

But your saying that statements there would be admissible as evidence?

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JimJesusPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:25
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@Kaiser Because he's a liar. Also he's stealing your Cheetos.

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Agent MattPosted: May 14, 2011 - 16:26
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Generic cheese puffs, get it right fool!

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