Skeptic Project

its pretty clear you're desperate for his attention, negative or otherwise. what better way to get him to speak to you?

Ok, so the evidence that I am a liar comes from unverifiable information on an independently run LARP forum? Posted by a bunch of people that none of you even know?

FYI, I have never been "busted for lying" in the LARP I play either. And actually am a referee there, and have been for several years.

That forum was basically to the LARP I play what Conspiracy Science is to the truth movement. It was just a troll haven.

A common troll tactic is to repeat that someone is a liar often enough so that they can do what you are trying to do here, and that is dismiss my evidence by just playing the "Oh well, he is a liar card". That place was no exception. I remember once to call them out on it I posted a thread saying "When have I lied?" and it took them two weeks to reply to it. I had to bump it several times. They finally came up with some weak answers. But the best they could come up with was to suggest that my view of something that had taken place was wrong. I won that debate, as if I was this "big liar" they would have had dozens of provable examples to go on. They didn't. And still don't. But it is certainly politically convenient to just be able to call someone a liar anytime they say something that is not convenient for your argument. This I might add is the reason no more then a half dozen or so members of our LARP that has hundreds of members ever used that forum.

Anything else?

He did indeed and as VTV always does he will try to avoid this known evidence of him being a known proven liar.

Here is VTV's handle and meme he uses in his LARP roles, notice his last post Jan 2011, notice the image proves it to be him: http://shadowrealmsgaming.webs.com/apps/profile/63867424/</p>

Now look at Leveer Silverleaf aka VTV get accused and proven to be a liar in his old LARP group here:

http://kanartalk3306.yuku.com/topic/2397?page=2

So that about proves you as a known liar Neil.

Also I have personally spoken to someone from your past Neil who confirmed this, I did some digging on you, this happened as it did on the forum, again youre a known liar.

so what about where he pretends to be roxanne?

"its pretty clear you're desperate for his attention, negative or otherwise. what better way to get him to speak to you?"

Ok, now you are the one who is getting bizarre.

If I want to get in contact with Peter, I can pick up a phone, email him, or Skype him. All of which usually happens for one reason or another at least once a week.

This is more of what I am talking about. You just invented the theory that I am supposedly obsessed with Peter and crave his attention. You created that out of thin air. And now you are actually trying to act like it has any basis in fact.

"so what about where he pretends to be roxanne? "

that was just him making a post on my blog on her behalf, it was refuted completely as well by the ex sociocyberneering member.

^ Told you he would ignore the evidence proving he's a known liar.

VTV is one disingenuous fuck.

So, VTV how does it feel to have evidence of being a liar shoved into your fat ass?

lol'd

Ok, well I just wanted to do a check, but thats coo'.

I haven't ignored anything. I just don't sit here all day and listen to you guys.

You gave links to a forum where people accused me of lying.

I gave my rebuttals to those people's allegations there.

The facts do not hold up to what they said. And I have proven that more then once. The people in question who generally posted there most of which had not even participated in the hobby sometimes for as much as ten years. And usually went off of hear say. And like you, if they didn't like someone confirmation bias kicked in. They could not even get their stories straight as far as what I had supposedly done, and in some cases their stories contradicted one another entirely.

If you choose to believe them you can. But no means is it "proof" of any lying on my part. It is proof of accusations.

If even a fraction of the things they accused me of lying about were true I would not be allowed to participate anymore. Much less be someone in a position of authority. So either

A. The hundreds of people who participate in the LARP in question are all for some reason wrong about their investigations of events that took place that they were actually present for that proved I was innocent.

OR

B. Some people who were using a message board who in most cases had not been present for events for several years or more were absolutely right about all of their assessments of rumors that came their way were.

When someone is accused of cheating in our game, it is investigated by people on the scene. Every time I have been investigated I have been cleared. There was one incident about seven years ago when I was getting used to plate armor where I didn't take damage properly. But that is it so far as my record.

On that message board that is populated only be a small minority of people, (Generally virtually none of which were currently participating in the hobby) anyone that happens to oppose them politically is guilty of anything negative they hear about.

Give you an example.

I badly sprained my ankle once out there, and was therefore not allowed to participate in the combat.

I went back to one of the camps. We have a rule that someone has to watch the fire pit. There was a girl sitting there who could not participate because of that, so I took over the duty of watching the fire pit so she could go participate. I put a sash on denoting that my character was "not present" and took over that duty.

Someone came out and figured they could kill my character. I explained to them that I was just watching the fire and would not be participating. The person in question does not like me very much so they were pretty miffed that their cheap chance to kill my character was not going to work.

Anyway, he twisted the truth about this story a bit. And it got telephone gamed, then finally ended up on that message board.

After many incarnations, the story eventually became that apparently that I, was in the middle of combat on my badly sprained ankle. And then RAN to the fire pit. And then claimed that I was therefore not an eligible target. Even though at that point I had been sitting at the fire pit for about two hours with no combat nearby.

The reason for this is that not a single person on that message board witnessed the situation in question. But just like here, they wanted something juicy to "get" me with.

Just because someone accuses someone of something does not mean it is true.

And yeah, Anti-cultist I am sure you have spoken to someone from that group who does not like me. I am also sure that person you spoke to also has people who if you spoke to about them would speak of them unfavorably. That's the nature of things. But an anonymous person speaking to you about it does not make anything they said true. This is why in a court of law we demand that people face their accusers. And that they are cross examined by a defense attorney.

By the way guys, this is not me squirming. I am actually kind of having fun with how easy it is to debunk you guys. I do have other work to do though.

I used to think you were a liar. Now I think you're just fucking crazy. I think you actually believe the shit you say.

And that's the scariest part of it all.

Well that was a nice bit of revisionism. I think I'll go read about the awesome life people had under Stalin next.

lol

So now that I crushed that allegation, we are back to ad hominem. My mission is accomplished.

They are not the 100 Anticultist. And ironically looking back on that page the thing I found funny is that everyone (other then me) who posted in that specific page of that thread actually has been busted for cheating. Some of which by me. Some of which were actually suspended from game play for it.

If the "100" as you put it were right and I was wrong, I would of been removed from game play. And I certainly would not of been promoted to someone in a position to judge the rules.

It's really simple. If they were right, I would not be allowed to play.

But now that I see I have rendered the trolls back to their caves of hiding behind calling me fat or whatever, I accomplished what I came here to do.

You all look like idiots. :)

Have a nice day.

You only come back here when your cover's been blown.