Skeptic Project

I'll see you fuckers in Sto'Vo'Kor.

I have no idea why I got worked up over it, kinda strange really, usually I shrug things like this off all the time, but recently I have been hyped up about everything.

Also thanks Anticultist.

I'M NOT WORTHY!!!

suprise suprise not a single thing happening.

The rapture isn't even in the fucking bible, it was made up in the 1830s by dispensationalists, and it flies in the face with other predictions laid out in the Book of Revelation, which states even Christians will suffer the wrath of the anti-Christ. So, riddle me this Jesus-freaks, how can they suffer along side non-believers AND be magically whisked away to heaven?

Or maybe the believers will convince the world with a mass coordinated elaborate game of hide and seek, where they all sneak of in the night to an undisclosed hideout in the wilderness for the rest of their living days.

As Alexastorm said best would have been nice to have ridden ourselves of all those annoying twits.

Matthew 24:36 says, "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Maybe people who believe in the bible should spend more time reading it and less time doing random math equations and making up crap.

I find it amusing when these guys look for secret codes in the English translated version of the bible, and not in the original language.

It's fucking hilarious too when you consider that a lot of hidden meanings, rhymes, and puns were lost as it was translated.

Apparently Koine Greek versions of the bible are amusing because the words for "good" and "evil" were almost exactly the same.

^I could be wrong on the exact language though.

It's 1 AM EST and no rapture or world ending.

Idiots.

I'm not sure how King James Version is easier to read with its 16th century English grammar that wasn't even used by actual English speakers, rather just rich ass lords and vassals. KJV creates a lot of misinformation if you try to take it literally, for example almost every use of the word "heaven" in the original pre-translated text is actually "sky."

KJV seems to me, since the wording today is so unusual from what we're used to, creates an easy way for extremely obscure interpretation, or as I like to say "making shit up." For example, the rapture not actually being mentioned at all, but various vague references throughout the Bible are used as evidence of it. The reference to a tree or bush growing is used by people like Pat Robertson as proof that Israel must exist for Jesus to return.

But of course, it's all literal, unless it flies in the face of what we want to promote, then we either make shit up or ignore it.

And Family Radio uses only KJV, they even give them away for free if you ask. They give out non-English translations that are translated from KJV so they're even more obscure.

No, interpretation can only come from the original Arabic, but Korans are available in nearly every written language that exists. I imagine if Christians did the same thing with their Bible, they'd be a lot closer to Orthodox Judaism like they used to be.

I said the new international version was easier to read not the king James version, they get rid of all the thy's and thou's, but add stuff like the word hades for hell, I think that is why Christian Hell is often thought of as the Greek mythological version of Hades, as in eternal torture. Christian scholars are often split between weather or not hell is eternal torture like we are all accustomed to or just death. Forgive me for not having the verses handy..........the bible explains that the body will die, then the unsaved will experience the fire of hell, which is the second death, that line is coupled with an analogy about burning a bad crop or something. To me that sounds like you just die and don't exist. Anyway I digress I was just pointing out subtle difference's in even English bibles.

duncan> I've got a number of pretty good reference books hiding somewhere on my 3rd floor. Haven't touched them in years so I'm a bit sketchy but I'm giving it a shot. The original idea of hell comes from Gehenna, a city that kept a constant fire burning as a way to get rid of all rubbish. Fire completely consumed whatever was tossed in so a person ending up in Gehenna meant permanent death. No eternal torture, just gone. The Christian hell is often thought of a place of torture because that's what the church wanted people to think. The church was in control for over 400 years before this concept of hell as eternal torment was introduced. Control through fear.

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Retired MTA worker Robert Fitzpatrick, who spent his life savings spreading the message, said to Reuters after the promised event failed to manifest:

“I do not understand why. . .,” as his speech broke off and he looked at his watch.

“I do not understand why nothing has happened.”