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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 15:46

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Genuine American Monster

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Its time they're labelled for what they are.

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 17:45

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Ordo Ab Chao.

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What makes them deserve that label?

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 17:49

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Genuine American Monster

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I FUCKIN SAID SO

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 19:07

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Three cheers for generalizations.

Edward L Winston

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 19:10

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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion!

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I have it under good authority that the Jews were responsible.

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 19:32

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Genuine American Monster

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I'm not walking it back. I think The Tea Party is more likely to attract domestic terrorists than any other political party.

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 20:57

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Attracting terrorists and fundamentally being a terrorist organization aren't mutually exclusive. There's elderly women, north of 70 years old, who show up at the rallies. Somehow I doubt they are going to shoot anyone.

I don't think a real terrorist organization would accept anyone who they were sure wasn't capable of murder.

Besides, isn't the whole point of a terrorist organization to cause terror? The Tea Party hasn't attracted much except ridicule. If they are a terrorist organization - they are a very bad one.

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 20:59

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Genuine American Monster

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Do you feel the same way about elderly women who show up to Hezbollah rallies?

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 21:07

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Yes, I do. Chances are they aren't actually hurting anyone.

Hezbollah's military wing is almost exclusively young adult males capable of murder.

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 21:24

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Genuine American Monster

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You don't think lending moral support to terrorists harms anyone?

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 21:48

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Please tell me you're not actually trying to draw a comparison between Hezbollah and the Tea Party.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 21:49

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Genuine American Monster

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Why not? They have the same number of guns.

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The Real Roxette

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 21:53

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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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Hizbollah runs hospitals, the Tea Party works hard to keep people from being able to get health care.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 21:57

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Last I checked, the Tea Party didn't have a military wing who's sole purpose was to blow shit up and intimidate and murder Jews.

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The Real Roxette

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 21:58

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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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There's still time, Snob Goblin, but I'm not sure if geriatrics make good paramilitary troops anyway.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 22:01

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Rox, somehow I just don't think it will come to that.

Matt, I understand you're pissed off over that shooter, but these comparisons you're making are just too much of a stretch.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 22:03

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Genuine American Monster

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I don't think they are. Your mental gymnastics in the other thread trying to distance the Republican Party from the Teabaggers shows me that the rightwing will endure any amount of cognitive dissonance to avoid accepting responsibility for the political climate they have created.

Your party is responsible for the political climate and the level of rhetoric in this country. What's been the GOP's stance on the Teabaggers? To bring them into the fold. What would Barry Goldwater or even Ronald Reagan think about the Republican Party of today?

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 22:26

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"The political climate they created."

What climate would that be? I can only assume you are talking about violence, but this is the first I've heard of someone getting shot. I'd heard the accusations of racial slurs, but not something like this. If the Teabaggers were true blue terrorists, I think DHS would take them just a bit more seriously.

And for the record, I don't know how many Republicans have spoken at the Tea Parties. I had only heard of Ron Paul and Dick Armey.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 22:29

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The Republican Party just wants the Tea Partiers back into the fold.

If they actually become a legit group to vote for, then it's only going to end up with Democrats winning more and Republicans and Tea Partiers losing more due to the splitting of votes.

Because I don't think the average liberal or Democrat would vote Tea Bagger.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 22:31

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Genuine American Monster

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Been a lot more than that.

What about the Tea Party Caucus, Snob? Which Party has that?

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 22:31

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Most political parties or psuedo-political parties end up getting co-opted in some way or another.

Matt, that is Michelle Bachmann and Rand Paul being idiots, and yeah, it's a shame.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 22:32

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Genuine American Monster

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Look who co-opted them: The Republicans.

Even the John Birch Society has been represented at CPAC recently.

Don't give me this shit, Snob. Because I ain't buying it.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 22:38

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Fine, but I still don't agree with you calling them terrorists. If they are terrorists, they are the shittiest terrorists ever.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 22:41

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Matt, I have a question.

Should I be hoping the Tea Party becomes more legit as a party in order to weaken the right in general by vote splitting, or that the party gets melded back into the GOP?

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 22:57

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Genuine American Monster

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Third Party. The GOP clearly doesn't have the balls to get rid of them and they will instead take over the Party just like the fundamentalist Christians have.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 23:03

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The tea party is pretty much run by the Republican Party. However the GOP brought in a lot of fringe groups to build members. The county GOP put on a tea party the week before the election and every Republican candidate on the county ballot spoke.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 23:10

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What the fuck?

Why the hell are they supporting the party then? I mean, isn't it obvious that the wingnuts in the country will go Tea Party and not GOP, therefore weakening the right?

Or am I missing something here?

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 23:11

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Genuine American Monster

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Because rightwingers are stupid and buy into jingoism.

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Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 23:11

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Jingoism?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingoism</p>

Posted: Jan 08, 2011 - 23:12

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Genuine American Monster

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Jingoism is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "extreme patriotism in the form of aggressive foreign policy". In practice, it refers to the advocation of the use of threats or actual force against other countries in order to safeguard what they perceive as their country's national interests, and colloquially to excessive bias in judging one's own country as superior to others – an extreme type of nationalism.

The GOP recruits Teabaggers because Teabaggers represent the ultimate goals of the GOP.

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