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@Edward Scissorhands- Absolutely. I'm really flattered. Be my guest.

Its hosted on my tumblr site on three parts, so make sure you start with the first installment.

Part 1: http://falknerslegend.tumblr.com/post/761903644/a-baseless-theory-part-1</p>

Part 2: http://falknerslegend.tumblr.com/post/782994996/rejection-of-the-state-the-paradox-of-anarchy-and</p>

and Part 3: http://falknerslegend.tumblr.com/post/790131736/betrayl-of-the-technocrats-authority-structures-lying

Thanks. I like your layout a lot better.

Yeah I should imagine its going to ruffle a few feathers when they cant argue it empirically. Resolving to vague anecdotes or unfound philosophical explanations should be interesting to watch.

some varying replies coming in, most of them just plain retarded

Wow. If that was the "silver bullet", I'm relieved

Falkner opened it up that it was no silver bullet it merely addressed a few problems with their RBE philosophy. Missed the point this guy completely.

I notice Pendrokar is still harping on about the points that were addressed to him in his thread and trying to make out like Edward is as bad as Peter Joseph Merola. Pendrokar is nothing but a CT and holocaust denier his points are erm pointless.

In the case of VTV all he does is talk and provide no evidence, how can he be expected to be taken seriously as an undebunker when he provides nothing but his opinions without backing any of them up ?

Also most of VTV's points dont address the content, they bypass it and disguise any real answer..

If someone wouldnt mind posting this on the blog, I'd appreciate it.

In regards to the idea that my first part is proving "guilt by association" with communism and Marxism, I think it needs to be made abundantly clear that this was not, nor is, my intention. What I am saying is that the language on TVP sources regarding RBE are not unique and have a very strong association to the though tradition fostered by Marx> You will notice that no where in my critique that I say RBE is a new Marxism. In fact, I made the case on the CS forums that it is NOT Marxism. My point is that there has been no sufficient debate or literature detailing the fundamental premises of RBE that are in common with Marxism. This means the link between labor and human being. There is no guilt by association in the philosophical realm because Marxist tradition has actually attempted to defend its basic premise. To my knowledge, and adequate and expertly done piece has not emerged from TVP either acknowledging or defending these philosophical tenants. To characterize my critique as a simple "guilt by association" reflects a fundamental misunderstanding on the part of responders. I was rather shocked that the idea of philosophica genealogy was not recognized by VTV. My point is that the ideas in RBE actually are not wholly new, nor are they equatable to Communism or Marxism. I ask that readers understand this, and realize that part one is meant to trace the pattern by which these fundamental ideas have emerged.

Zeitgeister logic states that since Fresco was kicked out of a Marxist meeting, he couldn't possibly have stolen any Marxist ideas.

Which is totally fucking stupid. But hey, they're Zeitgeisters.

Its all good, makes it better to read, youre not a pain the ass, I edit a lot of folks posts to look neater and presented better.

My next point, it seems to me the most vocal of our critics do not research our material and sources, I mean If I really took the time and read through The Venus Project suggested reading list I would have to take years with the time I have to read everything. So what many arguments are is a lot like what children do when mom or dad offer a new food item for dinner, when the child looks at it and says "I don't like that." without even trying it. So much of the argument going on is childish in that respect, the suggestion that they ought to read some of the books we suggest may be productive. So many come with their so-called intellect and just see what they want to see, or worse they are so blind they see everything different as some kind of boogieman. It's science versus the Wright brothers all over again.

http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=3&id=279496&limit=10&limitstart=20#279641

Fail

Terrible analogy and his opinion that zeitgeist is the parental figures offering up the food and the people questioning it are the child ? sheesh the arrogance of that is dumb founding.

In his analogy if the child started questioning the fibre, nutrition, taste, additives, health value, price, sell by date, packaging, production method, food source, environment of the foods growth it would be an extremely intelligent child.

So he is trying to belittle the questioner here more than actually address the questions placed in front of him.

Funny that he would of been better saying that the critics were other parents questioning another set of parents about the decisions they were making trying to feed their children. At least be honest and put the people questioning them on par with their intellectual level, its just dishonest not to do it.

They must believe they are so right all the time that they look down on anyone who questions them its unbelievably arrogant.

Science to him according to what he said appears to be 'people who are closed minded, immature, have an imaginary intellect, question anything that has no evidence, and all because they think it is a boogie man.'

What an odd view of the scientific method and scientists he has.

Because VTV does not leave the bunker.

And now TZM/TVP have shot themselves in the foot again. Not only do they have an incoherent and largely unsatisfying worldview and propositional world structure, but they can't even get a single, unified voice for what their movement is and isn't. Bravo. Bra-Vo.