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duncanlecombrePosted: Aug 10, 2010 - 22:17
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I think a good example would be Zeitgiest Challenge, they debunked part one of zeitgeist. But blindly accept parts 2 and 3 which I'm sure you would all agree is really stupid.

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AnoukPosted: Aug 11, 2010 - 09:52
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Duncan:

I do find it funny that part one of zeitgeist doesn't really get into any of that because it does hold more weight than anything Archaria S can come up with.

I know very little of Acharya myself, but from what I have understood she mainly concentrates on Egypt and its supposed connections to Christianity. If Christianity is connected to any particular old belief system it is certainly Mithraism!
Here's a link: http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Mithra

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duncanlecombrePosted: Aug 12, 2010 - 01:31
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I'll be honest I quickly browsed the link, but I'll cheack it out later.......I'm a little skeptical when anyone uses the born on Dec 25 argument.

Its very similar to Acharia she even talks about Mithra, mostly because of Mithera relation the sun. Check out the wikipedia entry......when you have time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithraism</p>

Their are similarity s their but are also difference's, I found a few thing about Krisna that were similar as well, but many other difference's (Like Krishna being a sort of warrior). Acharia basically heavily embellishes what makes many of these religions similar, sometimes even outright lying, and then completely ignores that their are many things that are different.

Back to what I was talking about before, if there were a lot of Mithraism based conspiracy floating around, I think it would be an interesting concept to use the Mithra monuments to debunk them.

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AnoukPosted: Aug 12, 2010 - 08:28
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Duncan, the thing is that the connections noticed between Mithraism and Christianity are not connections made by conspiracy theorists, but scholars. When people try to make a connection between Egyptian deities and Christian, they are grasping at straws.

"He [Mithra] was considered a great traveling teacher and master. He had twelve companions as Jesus had twelve disciples. Mithras also performed miracles."

"Mithras seems to have owed his prominence to the belief that he was the source of life, and could also redeem the souls of the dead into the better world ... The ceremonies included a sort of baptism to remove sins, anointing, and a sacred meal of bread and water, while a consecrated wine, believed to possess wonderful power, played a prominent part."

"Mithra was called "the good shepherd,” "the way, the truth and the light,” “redeemer,” “savior,” “Messiah." He was identified with both the lion and the lamb."

"Their [followers of Mithraism] conceptions of the world and of the destiny of man were similar. They both admitted the existence of a Heaven inhabited by beatified ones, situated in the upper regions, and of a Hell, peopled by demons, situated in the bowels of the earth."

And most important of all:
"He [Mithra] was buried in a tomb and after three days he rose again. His resurrection was celebrated every year."

I mean, isn't this obvious? I understand that you believe in the bible and that's fine with me, but you do need to be aware where these things have come from. That's all.

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Harbinger1991Posted: Aug 16, 2010 - 10:42
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Once a CT gets into this whole "This word equals a number, and this number symbolizes this," then they lose all credibility and look insane.

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duncanlecombrePosted: Sep 09, 2010 - 02:25
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@Anouk
sorry for the delayed response, I finally read through that mithra link, I'm a little confused as to where they get that info on Mithra because the main source of knowledge about Mithra is from sculpture and statues. Also that link is pretty much exactly what Acharia S says about Mithra.

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SkyPosted: Sep 09, 2010 - 03:30
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That Mithra stuff sounds like a bunch of baloney. Perhaps Mythraism influenced Christianity some but why can't people writing about all these amazing coincidences ever mention what ancient scripture they get this from.

If Christianity is connected to any particular old belief system it is certainly Mithraism!

If Christianity is connected to any particular old belief system it is certainly Judaism. (Duh)

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Sep 09, 2010 - 11:58
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What I find most irritating is how they will find things that basically pertain to any figure considered a god and push these as thefts on the part of Christianity. I'm not sure what their deal is, but I don't need to lie to myself about Christianity stealing from other faiths in order to know there is no god.

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duncanlecombrePosted: Sep 09, 2010 - 23:21
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"I'm not sure what their deal is, but I don't need to lie to myself about Christianity stealing from other faiths in order to know there is no god."

Some people need "smoking gun" evidence to back up their beliefs, the inverse for myself I suppose is I don't need to lie to myself and think I am living in end times and that the government is controlled by the devil to believe in God.

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duncanlecombrePosted: Sep 09, 2010 - 23:21
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Besides I think Superman has more in common with Jesus then Mithra, and I can even cite comic books as reference.

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Harbinger1991Posted: Sep 10, 2010 - 14:53
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Here's some more ramblings from this fellow.

"
My suspicion is that Osiris is the Moon god (not the Sun god as I think Texe opines). This means that JahBulOn or Jehovah Baal Osiris represents the male Father Moon god or number "3" of the 3, 4 Isis-Venus, 5 Horus triangle, the erect phallus, the 47th Proposition of Euclid (Pythagoras Theorem), 3X3 = 9, 4X4 = 16, 5X5=25 and 9+16=25. "IN NOMINE PATRIS ET FILII ET SPIRITUS SANCTI" Male, Male, Divine Female. The Obelisk (O-Baal-isk), shaft of Baal, the 28 day waxing/waning Moon cycle, the cutting up of Osiris (by Set) over 14 nights as Osiris gets smaller and then his gradual re-assembly by his wife Isis (minus his missing member, eaten by fish in the Nile, to make it fertile). So this is the Obelisk of Osiris seen in Rome, Paris, London and Washington DC etc. Isis is therefore Venus-Lucifera, the "Morning star", "The Bearer of Light" (she Bore and gave birth to Horus her Sun/Son). Sirius the Pointer "Dog Star" (Bethlehem) lined up with Orion's Belt (Pyramids below) points to the birth of the New born Sun at the Winter Solstice. Isis-Venus-Lucifera-Aphrodite (Frigg) is the divine feminine goddess of Friday (Frigg day, Norse) or Vendredi Venus-day in French, from the Latin. Venus (Isis) as the planet "wandering star" goddess, traces the Pentacle star over an 8-year cycle (linked to the 4+4-year Olympic Festival cycle). At the Olympics the sacred burning light of the Sun god is used to light the "Torch of Enlightenment" (reference Statue of Liberty Enlightening the World, Columbia Goddess) at the Temple of Hera. The Star of Venus-Lucifera (the pentacle) found inside the symbolic Apple of Wisdom (Gnosis Knowledge) when cut around the equator, presented to Eve in the Garden of Eden allegory."

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