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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 28, 2010 - 19:02 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Arcane stuff, for those with the "Eyes To See" the meaning: Remember 9/11? Ordo Ab Chao. A = 1, G = 7, K = 11 "None are more hopelessly oppressed than those who falsely believe they are free." - Goethe (Illuminatus). http://www.amazon.com/review/R3LDTDRK5RCFTZ/ref=cm_cr_rev_detmd_pl?ie=UTF8&cdMsgNo=3&cdPage=1&asin=0966016548&store=books&cdSort=oldest&cdMsgID=Mx237653NKLG0A5#Mx237653NKLG0A5 | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jul 28, 2010 - 19:07 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | Thats the numerology ramblings of an insane conspiracy theorist seeing patterns in nothing and making himself look like a crazy bastard online. It means hes fucked in the head. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jul 28, 2010 - 19:12 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | Something about A1 steak sauce. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jul 28, 2010 - 19:20 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | That's Homer Simpson, one of your chair warmers from sector 7 G | |||||
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Anouk | Posted: Jul 30, 2010 - 12:00 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | I saw this kind of rambling on the Icke forums when I was a member... | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jul 30, 2010 - 12:03 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | I strongly desire to find out how many conspiracy theorists and strange people online have mental disorders. | |||||
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Kaiser Falkner | Posted: Jul 30, 2010 - 12:08 |
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HAIL HYDRA Level: 6 CS Original | The problem is that the diagnosis of many mental disorders is dependent upon symptom set recognition. You can have a mental disorder just by barely crossing the symptom threshold. Plus youd actually have to talk to them face to face... which would suck. Love, P.S. Aaron, let's not fight anymore. can't you see what its doing to the children? | |||||
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Anouk | Posted: Aug 01, 2010 - 15:32 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Kaiser; Icke in fact was "tested" by some psychologist (i think it was a psychologist) for one of his documentaries, and they said he didn't fit the bill or something for being crazy. (WTF!) Im not a psychologist (even though I have studied Jungian Psychology for 3 years), but knowing his beliefs and experiences fairly well, I am positively sure he is with 90% probability a paranoid schizophrenic. If you believe invisible lasers are going to give you cancer and that you are on a grand mission...You fit the bill. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Aug 01, 2010 - 15:39 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | How do you know Icke even believes this stuff he says? | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Aug 01, 2010 - 16:11 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | ^ I agree with Alex Jones when he says that Icke probably doesn't believe anything he says, he's just a scam artist. How else can someone go from being a football announcer, to Jesus Christ, then to being some sort of prophet that knows about reptoids. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Aug 01, 2010 - 16:29 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Wow for once I agree with Alex Jonestown. | |||||
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Anouk | Posted: Aug 02, 2010 - 09:58 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Jacque, because I have readed his old articles, own one of his books and I've seen multiple documentaries of his. He certainly believes in reptilians and everything else he talks about. Even the psychologist (?) who 'tested' him said so. Thus, paranoid schizo. Special Ed: AJ has since changed his opinions on Icke. They're buddies now. Just check for some Icke/AJ interviews on youtube. "Two scam artists sitting in the tree..." | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Aug 02, 2010 - 10:12 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | I believe it is this documentary here: Who really runs the world ? | |||||
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Anouk | Posted: Aug 02, 2010 - 10:53 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Edward, that's not the one I've seen. But this is one doc atleast where they discuss the reptilian = jew code word and also, passing comments on his mental health. In the video above, a lady from the Anti defamation league is interviewed and asked about Icke. She discusses whether or not reptilians is a code word for Jews and if Icke really believes in reptilians. (4:37~) And at 5:30 she discusses HIS health if he does indeed believe reptilians are real. 6:54, Icke says he believes in Reptilians and defends himself saying reptilians is not a code word for Jews. I can't find the doc I saw where a psychologist (or was it even one?) tested him...Perhaps my memory is tricking me. Or the reptilians are getting to me. AUGH! -edit- Edward, I watched the doc (the Icke parts + few others) and even though this is indeed NOT the doc I was talking about, this one is FAAAAR better! In parts: I found the clip on youtube too: | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Aug 02, 2010 - 11:11 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Nothing you find on the Internet is going to tell you for certain whether or not Icke believes the shit he says. Only Icke knows that. We can only speculate. Yeah, I bought the Biggest Secret too. Doesn't mean shit. | |||||
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Anouk | Posted: Aug 02, 2010 - 11:14 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Jacque, do you personally believe he does NOT believe in the stuff he writes about? Just curious. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Aug 02, 2010 - 11:16 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Are you asking me to prove a negative? I sure fuckin' hope not. Because if so, you have learned nothing here. | |||||
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Anouk | Posted: Aug 02, 2010 - 11:18 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Jacque, okey dokey. Im walking away now... | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Aug 02, 2010 - 11:19 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | That would be for the best. | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Aug 02, 2010 - 11:36 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | Anouk have you watched that video ? Because @34 minutes the two psychologists are introduced and Dr French meets David Icke face to face @39 minutes. Theres a discussion about why people believe conspiracy theories and even why david icke does. EDIT: And your clip is an edited section of the video I posted. | |||||
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duncanlecombre | Posted: Aug 03, 2010 - 01:00 |
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Level: 2 CS Original | Does anyone know how or why the 322 on skull and cross bones is supposed to equal 666, I keep seeing this every where and I don't get it.......... | |||||
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babybackribs | Posted: Aug 04, 2010 - 09:24 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Gosh it's been ages since I've been here. The vapor trail I am. @Anouk, you were on the Icke forums long ago?! Same here! @duncanlecombre, 322 doesn't equal 666, unless you want it to, but it still doesn't mean it does. | |||||
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Anouk | Posted: Aug 07, 2010 - 17:38 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Edward, I watched the video you posted and then I searched for the clip on youtube. Baby: I'd rather not say, since I have left some posts there Im not proud of. 666 btw, is not the number of the beast. It's 616. | |||||
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duncanlecombre | Posted: Aug 07, 2010 - 23:19 |
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Level: 2 CS Original | I have heard the 666 is really 616 but honestly know little about it........... Correct my If i'm wrong............. About the above wizard of oz stuff I read a similar stupid CT about it, mostly revolving around the fact that Dorthy was taken to oz by a tornado, and tornadoes spiral like snakes, and that the tornado was really Satan..............I wish I knew where I saw that page it's good for a few laughs. | |||||
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duncanlecombre | Posted: Aug 08, 2010 - 04:36 |
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Level: 2 CS Original | hahaha I found it................... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsHvcfNqiXM&playnext=1&videos=-LsjoPmu4nE&feature=grec_index Face palm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its so stupid. | |||||
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duncanlecombre | Posted: Aug 08, 2010 - 04:39 |
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Level: 2 CS Original | Wow my youtube account is ruined now all I get is crap in my suggested videos............. | |||||
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Anouk | Posted: Aug 09, 2010 - 12:08 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | You recognize a Christian when they say that the snake symbolises Satan. No doubt about it. I can't remember how I found out it was 616, sorry! But indeed, the bible is filled with mistranslations and the bad thing is that a lot of these mistranslations are causing a lot of problems today. Like when people think that Satan is Lucifer. That's one of the worst ones. | |||||
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duncanlecombre | Posted: Aug 10, 2010 - 02:09 |
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Level: 2 CS Original | I have "heard" a lot about supposedly the bible being very close to the dead sea scrolls........but I can't personally validate that as I have never and/or can't read them. The interesting thing I find, potential mistranslations aside.............is a lot of biblical conspiracy can be debunked using the bible...........they seem very similar to zeitgeist in that they pick out info that helps their case, but ignore things that go against it. I would like to organize some sort of reference material and possibly submit it for this site if they would have it, but its a big job and their is a lot of content to cover. | |||||
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Anouk | Posted: Aug 10, 2010 - 09:12 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Duncan, something like that would take years, since the bible is filled with so many contradictions and mistakes. You would have to go through the old testament and new testament just to point out contradictions first. :x One good website that points out some mistranslations is freethoughtpedia. Oy, on the topic of contradictions, from the same website: The Bible, Christianity’s basic text, is riddled with contradictions. There are a number of glaring contradictions in the Bible, in both the Old and New Testaments, and including some within the same books. A few examples: ". . . God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (James:1:13) "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (Genesis 22:1) ". . . for I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger forever." (Jeremiah 3:12) "Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever. Thus saith the Lord." (Jeremiah 17:4) "If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." (John 5:31, J.C. speaking) "I am one that bear witness of myself . . ." (John 8:18, J.C. speaking) and last but not least: "I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (Genesis 32:30) "No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18) "And I [God] will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts . . ." (Exodus 33:23) Christian apologists typically attempt to explain away such contradictions by claiming that the fault lies in the translation, and that there were no contradictions in the original text. It’s difficult to see how this could be so, given how direct many biblical contradictions are; but even if these Christian apologetics held water, it would follow that every part of the Bible should be as suspect as the contradictory sections, thus reinforcing the previous point: that the Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ’s words. | |||||
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duncanlecombre | Posted: Aug 10, 2010 - 22:13 |
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Level: 2 CS Original | Well their is no doubt translation issues, even from king James version to New international version their are difference's and many believe these two version are basically interchangeable. Thats not even getting into different denominations like protestants which have a slightly different bible. A lot of this kinda stuff is new to me and I'm by no means any sort of scholar, to honestly even begin to comment on that stuff, but I see what your saying. I do find it funny that part one of zeitgeist doesn't really get into any of that because it does hold more weight than anything Archaria S can come up with. I'm just an average guy, with a belief system and a fellow conspiracy skeptic. Anyway my main point is when you throw a supernatural being in to a conspiracy theory, whether it be Satan, Lucifer, or whatever, there is a certain ideal that logic can be thrown out the window. The conspiracy's presented in zeitgeist can be debunked using logic because peter for the most part, presents them in a scientific and logical belief system. Ed has done a great job in debunking it but some people may hear the same conspiracy, but instead of evil bankers controlling everything its Satan, and all the great info that has been researched by you guys debunking it gets thrown out the window because "Satan" is using evil magic to control the banks. I'm not really here to argue anyone beliefs system, but no matter what, there are people, like me, who believe in the bible, my goal would be to debunk the CT's within that paradigm, because honestly, conspiracy theory's are stupid, and its really sad how many people believe in them, even more so when they are custom tailored to fit within you belief system. | |||||
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