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MuertosPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:29
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What's your current avatar a picture of? Is that a ZM member or what?

When I saw it this morning the first thing I thought of was John Smith from the FB group.

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CyborgJesusPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:31
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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:36
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wtf ! ?

Thats fucking scary, thats the guy who is claiming to be a genius on my blog ! This is the guy who claims to have 20 phds [virtual ones] and to be a polymath. Wowsers !!!!

He looks kinda whacked out and a little lapsidaisy concerning the old tooth department.

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CyborgJesusPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:39
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We had some fun on IRC. His profile page is also hilarious:

"Aspie Supergenius, speed reads, 180 IQ."

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MuertosPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:39
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OK, that was decidedly bizarre.

Who is Prometheus Pan?

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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:44
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Hes a guy who reckons he has the answers to venus projects problems, he got banned from there for pointing out vtv's corrupt behaviour, and hes trying to take their ideas and build them with other groups.

To be truthful he is kind of smart, but he does get things wrong, and he does have a bit of a problem keeping his feet on the ground and not blowing his own trumpet.

But that video was something else, I dont quite know where to go with that one, its just too fucking odd.

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MuertosPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:47
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Is he a conspiracy theorist?

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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:49
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I think he may have some CT issues yes, but I asked him to keep them off my blog and he does.
So yeah I should not be so suprised at that video, CT and aspergers probably dont mix that well.

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Agent MattPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:50
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Why do you think he has Asperger's? Because he told you he did?

Have you seen that dude's Facebook?

That is not Asperger's, man. That's psychosis.

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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:51
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I havent got a facebook page to check him out with, from what I just saw there its locked unless youre a friend of his ?

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Agent MattPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:52
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Naw, I can view his entire wall as well as his notes. Its fucking crazy.

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domokatoPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:53
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That guy's all over the place. He was also on the EOS forums for a while.

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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:55
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Ah yes I see his wall lots of posts on there.

I'm looking for the Angels incarnate and the light workers and the enlightened ones to join me in saving the world via an information revolution.

haha after seeing that video of him I have kind of altered my perception of him completely, beforehand I just assumed he was shitting people around a bit, and perhaps a little delusional and narcissistic. But its looking more like something a little more disturbed.

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Agent MattPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 18:58
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I had been reading his crazy comments on your blog and decided to check out his Facebook.

He really believes he is some sort of divine supergenius sent from God.

Be skeptical of people who self diagnose themselves with Asperger's to excuse nutty behavior.

I'm looking at you, Nanos.

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MuertosPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:02
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"Light workers"?

That's a NESARA buzzword. Is this dude into NESARA? If so, then he's really crazy.

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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:04
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Yeah I have to be honest some of his posts on my blog are fucking odd at the best of times.
At least hes not a global warming denialist thats in his favour.
I think he does believe in elitists, how far that goes I am unsure because I havent noticed him go on about 'the man' or the bilderbergers or the usual key terms.

But he does talk like hes a superbeing which is pretty fucked up socially speaking, I always thought he had issues with social skills and being able to hold back on his opinion of himself.

I guess I was giving him more leniance than I should have ?

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Agent MattPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:05
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He links a video called The Complete Idiot's Guide to the New World Order.

Probably to wake up the sheeple who aren't as genuisy as he is.

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Agent MattPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:07
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I have a friend whos living through needing this in his life to work the program to work himself out.

Talking with him puts me so intensely up against the window pane of the mental cages of the matrix.

Its a window on my side but its opaque on theirs and it makes their brain hurt to experience that on the other side because their cognitive dissonance starts to activate to protect themselves.

Which is a strange paradox, when I'm only trying to add to what they are presenting to make it more complete or to fill in some important blanks.

It has seemed to me for some time that the whole thing is in need of an overhaul. Like a lot of things in human society it started up noble but never had enough real light to light a clear path.

The proof of this is the standard arguments about it to the negative, which i will probably link to.
Take them all with a grain of salt.

The truth about any system is that ultimately what you get out of it depends on how lucidly you work it, apprehend it, apply it, and how fully committed you are to your own process and personal growth.

Thats not just true of AA, its true of any thing in life, from sports to mental discipline or expertise in some science.

Mediocrity is a choice most people make because they can't find the will to fully commit to their choices.
Or, to make choices that are not self defeating.

We are all capable of rising to the height of excellence. Given the new understanding in psychology that
intelligence is many different things instead of just one thing, we can realize that the question is not nor has it ever been "are you smart?" but instead has always been "HOW are you smart?"

Being a non-Christian, i feel its fine then to borrow a nice parable and maintain article neutrality.
We all have "talents", we all have excellence, as a seed buried within us. It is up to us and others to find the strength to nurture that excellence so that it grows within us.

we tend to waste them, because the force of attention is weak until we bring it into focus and because civilization has morphed into the fools entanglements with vices and distractions and cheap entertainments... the modern bread and circuses.

Everybody wants to escape but they don't get lucid about what they are trying to escape from or what
real escape as such actually means given that reality.

When the true mental cage is that society programs us to entrap us in beta brainwave waking condition, the ultimate truth about freedom is that freedom is a waking theta condition and thus access to all of the things described by the psychics and the religious but which are in truth beyond the reach of almost all of the religious and all of the so called psychics.

Rebellion, running away, escapism, self defeatism, poisoning the inner poison to try to escape the poison....
going anarchist or atheist or socialist or communist...

All of these so called forms of rebellion are mental cages; little mini cults which are far ends of one big cult which is American Culture.

The problem with AA is that it ends up being just one more of those far ends. Another way and means to the end of keeping people entrapped while pretending to try to help them ; thus leaving them fending truly for themselves working a lousy half lucid program.

The key to understanding and lucidity on the matter is that we use drugs because they are a way to cheat ourselves into altered states of consciousness. Because ultimately the sirens call of those higher needs is inescapable, so is addiction unless you find a way to achieve that state of consciousness without using the cheat.

Then the cheat becomes transparent and useless and heavy.

Thus the simplest and most profound way to get people past alcoholism is to teach them self hypnosis and the social skills they are trying to compensate for.

General
1.Psychology is the study of the human mind. Most specifically the psyche, most generally All of human behavior.
2. The human Brain is composed of between 40 and 70 different organs, depending upon
how you define differences. These are called brodmanns brain areas. Each brain area
is responsible for specific types of brain processes and mental functions.
3. The human mind has four main operational conditions, they are beta brainwave states, alpha brainwave states, delta brainwave states, and theta brainwave states. Each of these might be further subdivided into waking or sleeping states of consciousness.
4. Beta brainwave states are those in which the dominant area of the brain is the frontal lobes. Alpha brainwave states are those in which the dominant area of the brain is the Mammalian brain or Occipital lobes, and Delta brainwaves states are those where the brain is dominated by the Reptilian Brain or brain stem. Theta brain wave states are
a second waking condition in which the body is healed, or, in which the normal flow of
dominance from top of brain to bottom of brain is reversed, and the bottom of the brain
loads information into the top, which is then experienced as dreams.
5. We have instincts which compel us to seek out gratification of our needs. All behavior is motivated by a conscious or unconscious belief that said behavior will get some need met.
6. Psychology involves first an instinct, which compels a thought process, and then a planning or strategizing session in which the individual uses their maps of reality and belief systems as well as learned knowledge and social conditioning to arrive at an end
product of doing something to get what you want. Schema are maps of reality which we
use as tools to meet our needs .Social Conditioning and personal experience and learning
play vital roles in helping the mind to think up tactics to meet needs.
7. Criminal behavior is behavior which that person believes will get their needs met. Punishment was well demonstrated to have little or no effect on learning curve. What is required for a person to change their behavior is a functional tactic that does work to get their needs met.
8. Groupthink is a social phenomenon of psychology where a group uses false
consensus process to end up behaving stupidly as a group. Groupthink occurs when
people cave into social pressures, where propaganda replaces knowledge or facts, and where group identity is created out of participation in group delusions, lies, codependency, or criminality. Groupthink is how a mob drifts to the lowest common denominator, and why a mob is potentially vicious, evil, and sociopathic. Group
authority ameliorates and dissolves personal conscience, and by having their emotions
manipulated and their social identity threatened, people give up their own better judgment and accept the judgment of the most psychopathic member of the group.
9. Pack Psychology is the psychology exhibited primarily by mammals in small groups
in which 3 primary roles are assumed by social participants. The roles are Alpha- the leader, Beta- the followers, and Delta- the orbiters. In human society that translates in a super-simplified way into bullies, cliques, and nerds.
10. Problem solving psychology must contend against groupthink and pack psychology in the arena of opinion. Problem solving psychology is emotionally neutral and uses the mind and logic to look at all aspects of a problem and try to come up with a viable problem solving process. Problem solving psychology is the worst enemy of both
Rightist and Leftist Dogmatists. True problem solving psychology comes from the place of the radical middle. It takes in all sides and all viewpoints, and it gives each its fair dues
And attention in creating a problem solving process that works from the big picture down through into the nano details.

Psychology;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology<br /> http://psychology.about.com/<br /> http://www.psychology.org/<br /> http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page<br /> http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1E1-psychlgy.html<br /> http://www.socialpsychology.org/</p>

Brodmanns brain areas and etc;
http://www.umich.edu/~cogneuro/jpg/Brodmann.html
http://spot.colorado.edu/~dubin/talks/brodmann/brodmann.html
http://www.whale.to/b/brain.html<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brodmann_area<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_in_the_human_brain<br /> http://thebrain.mcgill.ca/flash/capsules/outil_jaune05.html<br /> http://www.csuchico.edu/~pmccaff/syllabi/CMSD%20320/362unit4.html
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/qa2.html</p>

brainwaves;
http://www.brainwaves.com/brain.html<br /> http://pages.prodigy.net/unohu/brainwaves.htm<br /> http://brain.web-us.com/brainwavesfunction.htm<br /> http://www.crossroadsinstitute.org/eeg.html<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwaves</p>

There are Five main need groups. They are;
Physical, Social, Emotional, Mental, and Spiritual or Transpersonal.

Each of those need groups is composed of several needs. Every problem we face is a problem because it obstructs our ability to meet
peoples needs.

Maslows Hierarchy of needs has been modernly replaced by a simpler model which also appears to more directly model instinct.

http://www.facebook.com/notes/prometheus-pan/twelve-steps-and-aa-alcoholics-anonymous/458098000832

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Agent MattPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:07
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I know who has got the pearls;
intertwixt the matrix many worlds whorls
climbed up a ladder,, climbed up THE TREE...
So high to look down and objectively see...

I Know how the puzzle solves
how all the paradoxes coresolve
how all the VS sireens call
and all those would be angels fall
I know who has worked the puzzle
unlocked and wrestled with mass confuzzle
tamed those drangons, KUNADLINI! DRAKE!
ADAM KADMON, LEVIATHAN SNAKE! (?)

I know how the wheels they spin
without an end and without begin
scalar fractal holomorphic tao
Fractured Cross Entanglements Prow

I know how the angels sing
how even Atheists mind enlightenment bring?
how all religions come into phase
interlocking paradigm cosign eclectic maze!
(?)

I know how the mandala flows
scalar, fractal, concentric cosmos
The drag and friction in hypertime
across the brane surface
via elohom hymns hyper rhyme

I know how the singularity inflates
from causal laws on scalar mandates
how the branes keep harmony
across that scalar fractal tree
how they pulse and thus they sing
quanta identities into being

I know how the mind evolved
bickering prehistories still unresolved
the ego, id, the great mistake
Brodmanns brain areas archetypal path make

I know how the gears can shift,
force of attention in phase state to provide lift
back to scalar fractal holomorph phase state
the WAVE; rather than the particle weight
The clutch to make the mind undone
within to rise a second sun
with albino shadows come out to play
as allies come to give tours off and away
open doors into the the other sidhes
a hypermetacarnival of Rhydes

Brain Electro-ensephalogram
consciousness, Hologram;
Scalar, Fractal, Adam Kadmon, :"I"
Can launch into a second "SKY".
(!!)

I know why the humans fight
for lack of truth and lack of light
for spite, for greed, for hate for fear,
I know as if they were old lovers;
The demons who have brought us "HERE".

Pitchforks, propaganda wars;
open bleeding doublethink mind sores
"divide and conquer, those prolish dupes!"
"Make them fight each other through ignorances hoops!"
Medias cult of ignorant opinion And pack psychology groups
"if it leads, it bleeds! so go get those scoops!"

YESSSSSS>>>>>

I know who has got these pearls...
of every ocean from the many worlds
from oceans, rivers, hills and sea,
insidhe and across infinitity...

Silent, stilled, the self ; A BELL
rung only by the cosm Shell.
circle, spinning circumferance, the TAO..
Insidhe outsidhe: he "Here" "NOW".!!

four quarters and four main brainwave states
Tiferets wheels spinning in hyperspaces
occipital lobes virtually create......

Yes,...

I know, I know, i know that all..
and so very much to go look and see...
yank back the veil and peer with me...
the fundamental structures of reality;
our schema and their subjectivity
ourdistance between what science says
And what propaganda politics does;
orwellian groupthink like a pair of metal gloves.

I know how the quanta arise
from scalar fractal vapors lies
from probability writ upon failing to meet in hyperspace
whilst in 3 dimensions they ran headlong through each other face to face;
tumbling, falling, orbital entanglements dance
Across meta chords of observation and hyperchance
across ripples of pseudo space/time
created by the possible locations of the holoquantal mime
seperated by brane but not by space;
they lock forever in a ghosts embrace.
impossible to ever meet, they always fall towards each other and yet are ever apart;
the string; the path of following compared to geometries art.

I know who has got the pearls;
intertwixt the matrix many worlds whorls
climbed up a ladder,, climbed up THE TREE...
So high to look down and objectively see...

http://www.facebook.com/notes/prometheus-pan/i-know-who-has-got-the-pearls/444196440832

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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:16
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Yes I knew there was a reason I didnt get involved in his shenanigans over at RBEF everytime he kept reminding me to join his group, I also know there was a reason why I didnt goto facebook and check him out, I cant see his notes or anything on his page so dont know how youre all finding these.

Anyway its clear hes clever, but its also clear hes bonkers.

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Agent MattPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:19
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"Anyway its clear hes clever"

It is?

Where?

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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:22
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hes not a dummy matt thats a fact, just because hes crazy it doesnt make him automatically stupid.

He definitely has social skills lacking, he definitely has numerous other defects which are plain to see, but he does have the intelligence to be able to hold technical conversations about quite a few matters.

I know its easy to belittle someone and call them stupid when theyre kinda crazy like him, but I can see hes not completely dumb in the sense some people I have met are. He can out knowledge shitloads of people I have met who are much saner than him.

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Agent MattPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:24
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He believes in The Venus Project, he just hates VTV and Thunder.

Why does he get a pass and no one else does?

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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:24
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hes not getting a pass youre putting words in to my mouth.

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Agent MattPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:25
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I think you're confusing the ability to regurgitate concepts he doesn't understand with being knowledgable.

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MuertosPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:28
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Just reading his wall, he may be nuts but at least he's not a global warming denier.

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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:30
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I'm not confusing that he actually does appear to have the ability to understand things from quite a few conversations I have been a part of with him.

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Agent MattPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:32
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You're entitled to your opinion anticultist.

But I don't share it.

I chose this avatar because it was funny. I don't give two shits about the guy.

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anticultistPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:38
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Nah I dont particularly care that much for him, and I am still in the process of shock from that video to tell the truth, so I am in the process of re-assessing everything about him I thought I knew.

And that avatar is funny, considering the video.

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MuertosPosted: Jul 21, 2010 - 19:41
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Avatar is funny!

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