Skeptic Project

haha funny I like anarchy, he basically threatened Tanktop with giving all the op modes to RBOSE if he messed with him.

Which is very funny to me.

Anyway props to him for dealing with their admin, they think they're big men in the internets and they prove time and time again they can screwed over by anyone. Tanktop is such a puffter, threatening anyone who disagrees with him or does things he doesnt like, he's a circle jerker who would get his ass handed to him by most people he threatens.

For those in any doubt take a look at the pathetic idiot @ 1 minute 21 seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c_tJuqnp7U

Oh no doubt, but I would rather tanktop get screwed over and them have to start again with IRC rather than have all their work given to them for nothing and to disrespect the person who ran it, designed it and then got shat on.

tanktop is a sour miserable nancy boy.

Anarchy came into RBOSE bitching about TZM and Tanktop. As much as I agree with him, Tanktop is correct that it's peter's server and he generally did the correct thnig as Peter Merola is the leader of the zeitgeist movement he has the last and final call on the direction of the movement sinc ehe is the leader of it. Anarchy was trying to get one of the RBOSE people to hack the servers in-particularly he tried getting DNS and me to do it, as a incentive he started giving out sensitive information such as names and password to log into and cause havoc on, as well as proof of this is publicly logged on RBOSE IRC website. I do not support any action of that nature, and although Anarchy is young and may not know any better, I'd personally not work with a individual who would do something to that extent over such an issue... I questino Anarchy's intent after he just got done ripping me and DNS apart on that TZM forum topic as well, I don't think he's a very intelligent person...

here are some things anarchy said in RBOSE IRC (password info is blocked)

[04:10] Anarchy (qwebirc@D267DF.B7E5C0.C42EAB.DBD9FE) joined #RBOSE.
[04:10] <Anarchy> Dns, you here, dont get ban happy before letting me tell ya something you might wanna know
[04:10] <Anarchy> or Billll can have fun with it
[04:11] <Billll> moo
[04:11] <Billll> what's up Doc
[04:11] <Anarchy> wanna fuck up tzm's irc?
[04:11] <Billll> dammit
[04:11] <Billll> I thought you'd tell em the secret to life >_>
[04:11] <Anarchy> tanktop pissed me off, so i nooped it for the moment, he will eventually fix it though
[04:12] <Anarchy> oper Anarchy blockpassCS, use the nick Jbot, it has root, pass is blockedpasshereCS, have all the fun you can stand
[04:12] <Billll> anarchy how'd TT piss you off? I'm not surprized if you did he's very sensitive =P
[04:12] <Anarchy> ill explain in a few need to do laundry for the moment
[04:13] <Billll> ah ok
[04:13] <Viper> Anarchy we will not ban you or any one
[04:13] <Billll> well I'm not into donig anything malicious at that tbh

I am all for a one on one fist fight with Tanktop but I suppose that's the Irish speaking in me but I'm not down to such things as this as he has a problem with Tanktop not with other Zeitards. I find it interesting that TZM says RBOSE spawns malicious people or what they say are trolls, I find that to be the opposite, in this case Anarchy is not apart of RBOSE yet this is a very malicious act without influence from anybody but TZM. This will more than likely be a continued trends and Anarchy among others are still welcomed on RBOSE.

Since it would never be me doing that kind of thing I could not care less if someone else decided to do it to their IRC server. It would make no difference at all to the efficiency of their movement. They have had it running since they started and its never made an impact on their actual progress or output.

They simply need to reclaim it and have an in house operator running it once more, the solution is pretty fucking simple, if they refuse to do that then they leave themselves open to be manipulated in this manner by people with a will to ruin their server.

So yes I could not care if it got hammered by anarchist or RBOSE or whoever else wanted to do it, it would just be a giggle to me to observe the mayhem and shouting for a short while.

Oh dear, it looks like Gman maybe the next fallguy..

> With all due respect, Neil, you're pushing your opinion into an area where it
> simply doesn't belong.

Tussles with Neil never end well for the other party do they..

> The ZM IRC is a valuable communication resource that I have never witnessed you
> utilize for anything other than the promotion of your own radio shows.

That is perfectly true.

(Oh dear, the truth, we can't have that can we..)

He then goes on to mention how useful it is, quite well put I thought, I'll put a copy here to save folk the effort of going there to see that part:

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The ZM IRC is a valuable communication resource that I have never witnessed you utilize for anything other than the promotion of your own radio shows. On the other hand, as an IRC network admin, project admin for the Linguistic Team, multiple project participant (Wave, Wiki Project, Communications, etc.) and dedicated Dev Team member, my opinions are based exclusively on long-term, first-hand experience with this resource and the members who made damn good use of it. For you to marginalize both the medium and the people who relied on it like this is simply unconscionable.

Obviously, many of us relied on it heavily as a focal point for project, Chapter and development support. Teamspeak is not a suitable 'replacement' as it forces all of the member's attention to very topic-specific rooms (e.g. Hungarian Chapter administration). With IRC, channels are set up to handle topics much more generally (i.e. Chapters), allowing members of ALL chapters to get to know more about members outside of their own small slice of the world and to share successful ideas and approaches across those imaginary boundaries. Members are able to very easily bounce back and forth between what they are doing elsewhere (such as working within wiki, Pootle, another IRC channel, etc.) and come back to an ongoing discussion or three whenever they are ready for that and without anyone mistaking it for disinterest (since many of them are doing the same thing to further their own projects). This is nearly impossible to do in VoIP, so much less gets done outside of that medium.

Outside of the 'main chat' channel, IRC veteran users are generally members who are getting shit done for the movement. While there are exceptions, most of us are not in there to talk about the weather or hypothesize on what Jacque might have meant when he said "(fill in the blank)" in the last lecture. Quick questions are answered quickly and the person asking them can get right back to what they were doing. Extended discussions generally focus on collaborative efforts towards an end result designed to further the goals of the movement and make things better, faster, easier for other members in other parts of the ZM community.

So, if this isn't the way you like to work, more power to ya. But please stop stepping on the rest of us with your negativity!
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