Skeptic Project

As if in confirmation of Mark Hoofnagle's theory of "crank magnetism," look at the broad-spectrum nutter who wrote the anti-Fed propaganda, The Creature from Jekyll Island, G. Edward Griffin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Creature_from_Jekyll_Island#The_Creature_from_Jekyll_Island</p>

In addition to Fed-hating and other right-wing conspiratorial thinking, he also believes he's found the location of Noah's Ark and supports laetrile as a cancer cure.

As Hoofnagle points out, people who can't recognize their own incompetence have trouble recognizing competence in others, so that you often find people with this deficiency holding several crank ideas at once, and supporting other cranks as well.

Going by your reaction to some posts here Brenton, I think eventually you'll come around to my position eventually. :)

These are the kinds of people that Peter considers good sources. Kind of ironic in this case considering Part 1 of Zeitgeist and that he is an atheist.

The interesting thing is that, despite the Constitutional disagreement (which is valid) the Federal Reserve is an illegal entity despite it's deceptive means of coming into existence.
I wouldn't even call them 'conspirators' advancedatheist, because it's so loaded. I'd just say that they were bankers who loved how it worked at home (England and elsewhere) and wanted to replicate that system in the U.S.

Ed, I think that for the most part the Creature is an incredibly good source material. You can ignore one good piece of work from someone because they also think that they have discovered Noah's ark, etc,. I see that sort of behavior as akin to the far-right ignoring everything that could be termed 'leftist' because the left has much of it's ideology born from Marx's ideas.

Brenton writes:
"Ed, I think that for the most part the Creature is an incredibly good source material."

Anyone want to critique Griffin's Creature book?

As far as I know that's where a lot of the banking myths and false quotes were propagated but I haven't read it.

You know the US Postal Service is also semi-private, is that an illegal entity as well, or only "international banks" illegal?

@Ed,
Wilbur, who I believe is a big zeitgeister, said that all taxes are illegal. I think this is a common misconception amongst the TZM even the ones who don't believe in the first film.

@Brenton,

The entire point of the Supreme Court is so we aren't locked in a traditional, fundamentalist approach to the Constitution. New Justices bring new perspectives and new biases, which do not have to coincide with those who appointed them as the position lasts for life.

Do you know anything about how this country works? This is grade school civics shit.

@Brenton,

Then why the hell are you even trying to argue it if its bullshit?

@Brenton,

WHY ARE YOU RATIONALIZING BULLSHIT AT ALL?

If something is wrong, you don't rationalize it. You get the right answer.

@ Brenton:

Congress has to the power to coin money, but it does not have the power to siphon off that responsibility.

But the definition of "money" has changed since then. The Constitution says nothing about representing money as bits in cyberspace, so does that make PayPal unconstitutional because it doesn't use physical coins?

"I'm not really interested in these technicalities (even though I'm discussing them)."

Oh man. That's pretty awesome.