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Joe | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 15:02 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | If anybody knows me; the thing that has been a conserned with has been the econimy. With all the talk of Depression; do any of you think that it is a possiablity in the near futur? | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 15:14 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | All this talk of depression? From who? Peak Oil nuts and Austrian economists? I certainly have not heard any talk of a depression. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 15:24 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | >> Coming Depression??? Try some Xanax | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 15:26 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | That's for anxiety. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 15:28 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | It's all related. | |||||
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Nanos | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 15:30 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | In the UK the depression started in the 1980's and we have never recovered! Though, looking at the nice government stats and those provided by 3rd parties, it would appear we are likely to be finally at the end of it and soon to be into a period of real growth. Dunno about the rest of the world though.. | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 15:51 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | You also have Keynesians like Paul Krugman saying it to. But I am just asking if it is more hype the realilty? | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 15:55 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Question: If a depression is in fact coming, what can you do about it anyways? | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 15:56 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | Move to South Africa. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 15:58 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Yeah, I'm gonna pass on that. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 16:01 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | I'm saving every penny I can and basking in my federally funded security. | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 16:02 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | It's possible I suppose, but I don't think likely. We seem to be past the worst of the downturn in early to mid 2009. That doesn't mean we'll be in boom times any time soon, but I don't think we're headed for a full-fledged depression. What I have heard talk of is a "double-dip recession," meaning the economy gets a little better, then slumps again similar to 2008/09. Personally I don't believe that the second dip will be as deep as the first one, at least not in the US. Obama will do another round of bailouts if he has to. Nobody will like it, but nobody wants the economy to tank either. I am worried that commercial real estate is going to collapse the way residential did in 2008. The reason I think that may be a possibility is because, when I was doing commercial real estate law, I observed there was a heavy round of commercial financing and leasing in 2005/06. Almost all commercial leases for retail centers, office buildings etc. are 5-year leases, meaning they're up this year or next year. If the debtors have lost a lot of value since 2006, as most have, lenders won't be keen to renew the leases and you'll see a lot of commercial real estate going dark next year. Even that wouldn't be an all-out economic collapse, but it would mean we'd probably limp along at our present level for another year or so. | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 16:05 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | It is just I have heard people go totally of the wall. Saying things like 100 year Depression. Which makes think how in the world do they think they could save enough food, gold and almmo to last them the rest of thier lives. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 16:08 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | lol 100 year depression? *smashes laptop into face* | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 16:38 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | >> What I have heard talk of is a "double-dip recession," meaning the economy gets a little better, then slumps again similar to 2008/09. You can't double dip the chip! One of the greatest minds of the century predicted this in 2001: http://www.amazon.com/Great-Depression-Vinyl-DMX/dp/B00005O6IQ/ | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 16:38 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | lol | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 17:36 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | http://www.last.fm/music/Defiance%2C+Ohio/Great+Depression ?? Whole buncha gipster harbage as they say. | |||||
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domokato | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 18:35 |
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Level: 4 CS Original | No one really knows for sure. We're kind of in uncharted economic waters at the moment, so we'll just have to do our best and see what happens. From what I gather, governments shouldn't withdraw their economic stimuli all at once and should reduce it gradually and "at the right time" to avoid a depression, whatever that means. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 18:36 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | Y'all gonn' make me loose my mind, up in he'e, up in he'e. | |||||
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duncanlecombre | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 21:47 |
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Level: 2 CS Original | either way I'm not really worried it seems the people who get hit the worsed are guys who want big money fast................. | |||||
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Alton | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 22:52 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | A big part of these economic failures many CTs and doomsdayers ignore is the irresponsibility of individuals taking on loans they can't afford, mortgage fraud and like what Duncanlecombre mentioned. But these failures don't necessarily mean a complete economic collapse, but more like a weeding out of bad decision making in the business world. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 22:52 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | I wonder how many CTs were part of that irresponsible group. | |||||
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Alton | Posted: Jul 01, 2010 - 22:56 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Probably all of them. I can see many of them wasting all their unemployment money on alcohol, weed and CT products. | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Jul 02, 2010 - 10:37 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | Muertos I have read meny articles that agree with you. But then I also have read ones like this one: | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jul 02, 2010 - 12:57 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | Truth, I think the big financial crises in 2008 is also what led to lots of other people into believing CT's. | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Jul 02, 2010 - 13:06 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | "Truth, I think the big financial crises in 2008 is also what led to lots of other people into believing CT's." | |||||
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The Burger King | Posted: Jul 02, 2010 - 14:24 |
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me? Level: 5 CS Original | I have no take or experience in a economic standpoint but I'd like to take a stab at it as far as the possibility of a great depression. In one way a obvious fix is to sink all the way to the bottom meaning economically wise and the ones that survive will probably be the standard business model when it's rebuilt to the top, now of course their is no grantee that it will be rebuilt to the top as such things are becoming more global it is of my personal believe that whatever country rises to the top will more than likely have a global dominance over other countries in a economic standpoint of course. I think it's going to be overwhelming obvious more so than what it is now what country is the economic power. The possible second phase is when Obama give his relief money this is money not only to keep people in work but I personally think the idea is to let the banks die of slowly (not working) and letting it be replaced on a slower level by other entities, he's trying to spur small businesses growth which I take it is the intent to get new innovation that can potentially restart the economy. If Obama or whoever it is keeps in giving relief to me that is saying that it's not working, at that he may have to let the economy fall and let it build up naturally as if he keeps doing this I can only see the same business practices being happened with small business being bought out by larger corporation (much of which is happening anyways, and larger business practices do not change much and therefore the collapse of the economy may be enviable do to the very nature. I suppose the bets thing to do is to let it collapse entirely while continued to support to small business. Also I disagree with the whole concept of public education and TZM/TVP is a good example of why I disagree with it. Another possible third way is the government itself starts cooking the books. Making in unaccounted money therefore not devaluing the dollar and it circulating through the system in some way shape or form. It be easy for them to do as the majority of our money is through electrics, it's never been easier to create fake/real money per sey. Me personally I wouldn't mind them using this tactic as long as no one else knew about it, I know this is going towards the conspiracy theory route but if they did use this tactic it would work. some drawbacks from using this is obviously it's dishonest, a government would have to slowly introduce it somehow to the system without raising an eyebrow, it couldn't buy things globally with this money but corporations within america could do it with no problem but they have to keep the money localized meaning within the Unites States at first as it would devalue legitimate currency everywhere else. Benefits from doing this of course it would spur economic growth, no one would care where the money was coming from as long as it was coming I can prove this case in point Bernard Madoff's Ponzi Scheme, money electronically made would be virtual untraceable meaning if the government or whoever wanted to circulate untraceable unidentifiable yet legitimate unaccountable money through the system it be easy to pull off and virtually impossible to expose. Again i wouldn't mind for the third option even though it's dishonest in the end, the ends justify the means I suppose as everybody is happy getting paid, I mean really how could anybody be against the third option besides people like peter Merola and VTV who simply just do not want to work no matter what good or bad economic times is presented to them. The shitte business practices that are happening now need to be completely abolished for a good hardy legitimate economy to happen if not it'll just continue to happen. | |||||
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