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Eric | Posted: Feb 04, 2010 - 20:45 |
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![]() Oooh baby, baby, baby, baby, ... EEE baby, baby, baby. Level: 1 CS Original | Pat Robertson saying 1982, then Y2K, now 2012. How many predictions for the end of the world have there been? | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Feb 04, 2010 - 20:48 |
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![]() Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl1.htm</p> http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm</p> http://www.randi.org/encyclopedia/appendix3.html</p> That should get this thread going. | |||||
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advancedatheist | Posted: Feb 05, 2010 - 10:32 |
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![]() Level: 3 CS Original | So far the actuarial tables have a better track record than the rapture predictions. I enjoy a good laugh when I hear that one of these rapture hustlers, like Jerry Falwell, has died. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Feb 05, 2010 - 13:12 |
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![]() President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | advancedatheist, you're so stupid. We're the last generation, just like every other generation before us. Duh. | |||||
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advancedatheist | Posted: Feb 05, 2010 - 21:40 |
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![]() Level: 3 CS Original | Christians keep generating "end times" predictions because they fear on some level that their religion could go extinct, yet the human race would continue just fine without it. After all, humans and their immediate ancestors managed to survive for, what, 100,000 years or more before christianity; and billions of people have lived since the origins of the christian era in ignorance of the gospel, even up to our time. So if christians expect the coming of a world-wide "Jesus who?" era, they fantasize about taking the rest of us with them into extinction, kind of like in those "Life After People" shows on the History Channel. | |||||
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advancedatheist | Posted: Feb 06, 2010 - 21:27 |
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![]() Level: 3 CS Original | A recent episode of "American Dad" took christian end times beliefs literally and showed their absurdity. Apparently Jesus has to say a spell to rapture someone. http://www.hulu.com/watch/111568/american-dad-raptures-delight#s-p1-so-i0 | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Feb 07, 2010 - 00:43 |
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![]() President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | Yes, that episode was hilarious. | |||||
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advancedatheist | Posted: Feb 09, 2010 - 22:39 |
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![]() Level: 3 CS Original | Gary North has huge crankload of his own to account for -- Austrian economics AND Christian Reconstructionism, sheesh! But in one instance he did write something reasonable against the rapture idea. In addition to the scriptural problems with the rapture, North points out that it appeals to people who lack the ability to plan and work towards goals beyond their immediate gratification: Left Behind Culturally http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/issue11/left_behind_culturally.htm</p> BTW, do you notice that people who build their world view around an apocalypse want doomsday to support their beliefs, and not other people's? For example, Austrian economists promote the belief in the hyperinflationary collapse of the American economy as punishment for the sins of having the Federal Reserve, fiat money and fractional reserve lending; yet they tend to ridicule and dismiss global warming apocalyptics because that version of doom blames unregulated capitalism as the cause. In fact, you could probably identify a crank belief from the fact that it catastrophizes an imaginary, benign or manageable problem. | |||||
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scitops | Posted: Feb 11, 2010 - 11:25 |
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![]() Level: 4 CS Original | When I was in 9th grade my parents decided not they did not want to send me to the high school in my district because they thought I wouldn't succeed in a large high school. They sent me to a Christian school. There I learned about the rapture and actually didn't even believe I would graduate from high school because I would be raptured by God. Even after my parents realized their mistake, and sent me to the public high school I still clung to the rapture belief until I went to a church that was having a rapture night. It was actually a clever way for the pastor of the church to get people who believed we were living in the last days to come to his church and expose the nonsense of people like Hal Lindsey and company. As a thank you for showing me this I often volunteer in the church's soup kitchen even after I became an atheist. Of course what is strange is there is a man who works at the kitchen who believes the Alex Jones/Federal Reserve conspiracies. | |||||
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advancedatheist | Posted: Feb 11, 2010 - 12:02 |
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![]() Level: 3 CS Original | I'd like to see if rapture beliefs have any deleterious economic effects. If you expect to get beamed into heaven at any moment without having to die first, then you lack the incentive to do something useful with your life that will get you out of the trailer park. Cultures which emphasize self-reliance, self-development and the accumulation of capital don't seem susceptible to this kind of religiosity. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Feb 11, 2010 - 12:29 |
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![]() Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | @atheist: I work in mental health, and there are people who do exactly what you describe. | |||||
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advancedatheist | Posted: Feb 11, 2010 - 14:45 |
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![]() Level: 3 CS Original | Something about christianity just naturally provides mentally ill people with the metaphors they need to express their disturbed thinking. By contrast, I don't know of a case where a mentally ill non-geek turned to theoretical physics and mathematics to find the ideas he needed to articulate his inner turmoil. | |||||
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