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anticultistPosted: Jun 29, 2010 - 11:42
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http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=229&id=269517&limit=10&limitstart=20#270789

He is claiming I am making posts about him in his attempts to gain political positions in a teabag power struggle.

How funny this is to me because I have no interest in making posts about him, I even told him in the threads here that he is a failure and makes himself look like a failure without any help from me. But I have to say I admire the person who did make those posts against him, they were very good and entertaining.

You should check the thread out VTV gets called out for all the crazy shit he does.

EDIT:

Here are the posts he is talking about that I am supposed to have made:

http://bostontea.us/node/880#comment-2927

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 29, 2010 - 11:43
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COINTELPRO!

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anticultistPosted: Jun 29, 2010 - 11:45
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haha yeah I guess I am responsible for everything on the internets.

Fuck I am a busy busy boy arent I ?

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 29, 2010 - 11:47
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Earn that FBI scrilla, mayne.

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sorryPosted: Jun 29, 2010 - 11:54
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domokatoPosted: Jun 29, 2010 - 12:27
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Here are the posts he is talking about that I am supposed to have made:

http://bostontea.us/node/880#comment-2927</p>

lol at retarded comments

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NanosPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 01:58
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How do we vote against him ?

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anticultistPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 03:03
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You cant now, as far as I know they had join me times and now they have no join me allowed.

So now is not a time you can do shit about the doyle being voted

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CyborgJesusPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 04:54
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I'm curious how TZM guys will react when he loses the election.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnZAo60JLj4

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 07:27
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sorryPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 10:35
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Most of our problems today are technical, not political.

Whereas under TVP, our problems would become political, not technical? ???

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 10:37
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"Most of our problems today are technical, not political."

That isn't even remotely true in the first place.

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sorryPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 10:41
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It's a strange statement considering this whole libertarian / TZM argument is based on hate for politics.

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 10:49
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It takes an awful lot for me to consider libertardian views to be more rational than someone else's.

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sorryPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 10:53
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I've been reading some more about libertarianism and the problems with it. What do you dislike most about it, Matt? Some complain that there are so many forms of it, and therefore it's just confusing.

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 10:53
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For example:

"Those driven by intrinsic motivation (i.e. people that do things because it is their passion, not because they get paid for it) tend to do a much better job."

This is just flat out wrong.

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 10:54
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"I've been reading some more about libertarianism and the problems with it. What do you dislike most about it, Matt?"

It has the social consciousness of a toddler.

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sorryPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 10:57
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Can you give an example? I'm not disagreeing, I just wanna hear what bothers you most about it.

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 10:58
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Okay, for example:

In libertardian land, civil rights laws are not necessary. They believe that if an establishment excludes blacks from being a customer or employee there, the free market will punish the establishment owner because customers will simply choose not to frequent a racist establishment.

Its juvenile as hell.

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sorryPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 11:01
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Yeah, that doesn't make much sense. What if that establishment is the only one who offers that product? They'll have to buy them.

What I don't understand is where they fall on political spectrum. They want social freedom, but it seems like they also want economical freedom. Yet, they also support capitalism and private property? At first, it sounds like anarchy, but then they want the benefits of government.

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 11:02
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"What I don't understand is where they fall on political spectrum."

I'm not sure you can really measure that, since libertardians are a mishmash of fringe types from both sides.

With the Green Party, it is much easier to figure that out. But they're still fringe.

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CyborgJesusPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 11:04
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"Those driven by intrinsic motivation (i.e. people that do things because it is their passion, not because they get paid for it) tend to do a much better job."

This is just flat out wrong.

Not exactly. But it only applies to creative work, for low-wage manual labor intrinsic motivation doesn't work that well. I've done a few tests on that myself and gotten pretty similar results.

It's still embarrassing that TVP advocates quote Dan Pink's book for a theory that's been around for years in the business community, so it's probably been around for a decade or longer in scientific circles.

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Agent MattPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 11:05
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"Not exactly. But it only applies to creative work, for low-wage manual labor intrinsic motivation doesn't work that well. I've done a few tests on that myself and gotten pretty similar results."

Well that's a pretty important caveat.

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CyborgJesusPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 11:12
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"What I don't understand is where they fall on political spectrum. They want social freedom, but it seems like they also want economical freedom. Yet, they also support capitalism and private property? At first, it sounds like anarchy, but then they want the benefits of government."

They have the weird believe that markets are "efficient" when it comes to serving all needs, which is absolute nonsense.
I charge high prices because I don't give a fuck about poor people unable to afford them, but you can't base a society on that...there've been so many studies on the inability of free market insurance to provide affordable health care for poor people, (esp. sick kids of poor parents) that it's not funny anymore.

The weird thing is that they as "capitalists" don't seem to have any business knowhow whatsoever, or they would know that hijacking unregulated markets through business syndicates and domination of distribution networks is probably the highest profitable strategy of the world. I'd like it myself, if I wasn't so sensitive about people starving because of my actions.

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MuertosPosted: Jun 30, 2010 - 11:49
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Libertarianism is a juvenile belief system. Yeah, basically they want total freedom, except when they think government is OK.

I think libertarianism is far less cohesive than its adherents pretend. They just like to sit on the sidelines and throw tomatoes at both major political parties because deep down they know that no one will really listen to them and they'll never have to come up with a realistic program for governing.

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