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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:06 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | AARON IS A STATIST! Sorry, had to. :D | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:11 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | Isn't that you, Matt? | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:18 |
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Yes but that's silly. You could also say that red wine is healthy, even beer can be said to be healthy in certain quantities as it can reduce the risk of heart disease. But most people do not need to drink red wine, or drink more beer. Fruit and Vegetables however have only good properties, whereas meat, if you want to bring that up, has various links to all kinds of bad health issues and we really don't need as much protein as people generally get anyway but now I'm drifting from the topic. We know being able to eat more vegetables would make people healthier, which also means the NHS wouldn't be flooded with patients with illness' that could have been prevented if they had a better diet. I don't see why they wouldn't do it. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:23 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | Ed, you originally asked why they aren't subsidizing vegetables "and other healthy foods." If you want to leave it strictly to vegetables and fruits, then I think it's justifiable to subsidize. So, why aren't they doing it? I don't know. Are a lot of vegetables and fruits in the UK organically grown? If so, farmers could go back to conventional farming and immediately save money without subsidizing. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:36 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I don't think you can grow tomatoes in the UK without a greenhouse. I would imagine this would apply to other vegetables and fruits. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:48 |
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When you say conventional farming, you mean organic? In which case no, that would make things even more expensive! I mean just using what they have. I imagine government insentives to retailers to provide cheaper vegetables, fresh and frozen (some frozen vegetables are still quite steep!). | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 20:50 |
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You can grow vegetables without a greenhouse, sometimes we have grown some cherry tomatoes in compost bag things in our garden. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 21:03 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | If you want my opinion in regards to the USA, I think public education should include a nutrition class from kindergarten through high school. It is ridiculous that we learn about cell walls, nuclei, and pv=nrt, yet we hardly make these connections with healthy eating. Often enough, children learn about biology with a food pyramid on the wall that tells them to eat a lot of grains "because it's good for you!" Perhaps if they provided us with scientific nutrition education, we would make wiser choices at the market. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 21:12 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | "You can grow vegetables without a greenhouse, sometimes we have grown some cherry tomatoes in compost bag things in our garden." Then why are so many imported from Spain? | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 28, 2010 - 21:33 |
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They are better, I guess? :P | |||||
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Nanos | Posted: Jun 29, 2010 - 00:46 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | > 1. Why are train fairs SO expensive? If they was cheaper, trains would be full and they would have to lay more track, and build more carriages, thats expensive.. So short term solution is to put up prices! Remember also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Beeching</p> > 2. Why are bus services outside cities So CRAP and unreliable? Not actually that good in cities.. Though, I suppose beats slightly the answer when I moved to the countryside and asked what time the bus would arrive, and the little old man sitting on the bench said 'Tuesday'.. and it happened to be Monday.. Where I am, the last bus is at 11pm, so wobetide you if you want to get home after that if your travelling from the west inwards.. Getting a seat is often a luxury, not dying from heatstroke is another.. (Though after several complaints and several years, the AC on some buses is now at least working occasionally, and they have retrofitted some buses with my extractor fan idea. (Or maybe someone else suggested it also..)) Thats if the muggers and sexual assaulters don't make your life unpleasent, all the time watching out for smashed windows en route.. Thats if you haven't sat on a puddle of pee left by the last person, or picked up a cockroach falling off someones clothing.. > as they explained it, *could only* eat fatty foods. Its not eating fatty foods that make you fat, its eating too much of them.. Having in the past fed a family of 4 on benefits for several years, very cheaply, they wasn't fat, because we didn't feed them too much of the cheap food! > I don't think you can grow tomatoes in the UK without a greenhouse. We can even grow bananas here without a greenhouse ;-) http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3032151/Britains-so-hot-its-bananas.html</p> > Perhaps if they provided us with scientific nutrition education, I don't think its about education on the whole, its about cheap food.. When food was expensive, we didn't eat so much of it and we wasn't all so fat! But now its cheap, or rather lots of people on state benefits have more than enough money to eat tons of it and get fat, people do.. As someone who was once thin, and poor, once I got a job and became less poor, I could afford to get fat, and I did so! (Stupid I know..) Now I'm poor again, guess what, I'm loosing weight :-) > why are so many imported from Spain? Probably cheaper, because probably labour is cheaper, probably because housing is cheaper, probably because local council services are cheaper.. Though, we are growing more in the UK now, this rather pleases me, if only we had more of these! | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 29, 2010 - 07:43 |
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Maybe if you're used to it, I find, for example, London transport fantastic. You dont have to own a car, busses come regularly, you can use a oyster card on underground and busses, tubes run regularly, busses run all night, I can travel a long distance on the bus if I do it in one journey for only a pound. Compare that to where I live, only 40 minutes on the train from London. Busses seem like they come when they feel like most of the time, overly convoluted timetables compared to the above, hugely expensive even just to go a short distance, trains come far less frequently and public transport stops about 11:30 so if you're stuck somewhere you have to get a taxi or you're screwed.
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Nanos | Posted: Jun 29, 2010 - 08:58 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | Sadly buses are not very ideal for tranporting anything than yourself, try a 22" CRT, or a 12ft roll of carpet and you run into difficulties :-) I thought it was one pound twenty pence, not a pound these days ? As a typical journey for me is at least 2 buses to go anywhere, thats 4 in total, so I max out my Oyster card travel costs which is what now, around £3.50p a day ? I wonder how far you have to live in London before the buses run 24/7... Or rather, how wealthy you have to be, says he living in Southall. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 29, 2010 - 09:40 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | Ah yes I heard it went up to 1.25 I forgot. Still If I want to go a few miles I have to pay much more than that, its still a great deal. I think if you have lived outside of London most of your life you realise how great London transport is comparably despite its faults. | |||||
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Nanos | Posted: Jun 29, 2010 - 11:39 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | I can't say there is much difference to my life in London as outside of it, I still have to walk miles because I cannot afford the bus fare! Which is a healthy £845 a year if you want a bus pass to go to work.. | |||||
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