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Ed | Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 19:36 |
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He does say more than that though, so would be interesting if we could get a rebuttal to his rebuttal :) | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 20:09 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | He'll just keep doing back flips, his excuse is that it's "generalizing" and "keeping people's attention" But then claims that he's only talking about M1, but if that were the case, then his discussion of branch<->commercial bank money wouldn't have occurred. He only argues this stuff because he was a Paultard, why do you think you don't hear most anti-Capitalists, technocrats, anarchists, communists, etc. talking about it? Because it doesn't matter if you oppose capitalism, he only argues this stuff because he doesn't want to be wrong about it. He uses the classic "kid" condescension popular among conspiracy theorists, when I'm older than he is. In other words this "kid" is just whining like a teenager that people just "don't get" how smart he is and why he's never wrong. See, I can use "kid" too, does it make me just as infallible as Peter? I updated the Zeitgeist Article to include that wonderful fact. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 20:22 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Question: What the hell does Merola know about economics in the first place? | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 20:23 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | He's watched youtube videos, I bet a lot. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 20:25 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I read half of his rebuttal and then I thought "why am I doing this? this dude went to college to learn how to play a huge xylophone." | |||||
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Nanos | Posted: Jun 15, 2010 - 23:13 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | > Question: What the hell does Merola know about economics in the first place? Well, he did (Still does?) trade in the money markets or something like that didn't he ? Though, there is no mention of whether he made or lost money doing that.. And as he doesn't like to talk about it at all, its hard to figure out! I'm confused though, why ban people and then debate with them via this forum, why not just talk to us there.. Still, its nice to see him chat with the common folk. Though I do wish we could get away from what the problem is, to what the solution is.. | |||||
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CyborgJesus | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 05:48 |
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Level: 6 CS Original | It's not even an important issue. And pattern trading is about comparing pictures and counting lines, you don't even have to know what the FED is to do it. I'd just drop the whole thing. It attracts people like Griffin who are then pissed off when he talks about TVP instead of monetary regulations. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 07:12 |
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I have to say this subject really confuses me, I was wondering if you could briefly expand on what you mean? | |||||
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Kaiser Falkner | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 10:20 |
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HAIL HYDRA Level: 6 CS Original | Here's a problem I see on those forums over and over. The last post is a huge face-palm: "Take some money out of you [sic] wallet and look at the word "Note" now go look at the legal definition of "Note". dictionary.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/result...feb2db2e99a6125da09e" The poster appears to believe that because the bill says "Note" that the definition applies to the holder of the bill and not the person who distributed the bill. Its a promise to pay a debt when a transaction occurs, not a forced debt onto the holder. Money is not debt, its a way to pay back debt as a medium. It represents potential-goods and services. It would be really great if people, once the read something, would THINK before posting. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 18:17 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | "I don't want to digress to greatly, but Griffin is now producing a film on Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering/Chemtrails that looks like it will be the first proper treatment of the subject. It sounds bizarre, but I am in possession of Government Documents describing the technology in great detail." They almost made it off the first page without talking about crazy shit. So close. How does one's train of thought leap from economics to chemtrails in the first place? Also, why is "Government Documents" capitalized? | |||||
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domokato | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 18:59 |
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Level: 4 CS Original | They could even watch a YouTube video on banking and learn this stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOzZVmgK3IM&feature=PlayList&p=CECDA315A8848B99&playnext_from=PL&index=6 oOo, big conspiracy. | |||||
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Sky | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 19:00 |
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Level: 3 CS Original | Matt that Blastikus guy is Ben Stiegmann. Does that answer your question? | |||||
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CyborgJesus | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 19:07 |
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Level: 6 CS Original | Maybe it's trademarked, like TVP. "Government Documents", just the way you like 'em - now with even more Thermite Paint, Chemtrails and Plastic Coffins, only $19,99. I believe Alex Jones could sell them. "The thing I don't like about Griffin is that he employs Arguments from the Austrian School which favor the Gold Standard. This ignores the historical monopoly the House of Rothschild had over the gold supply of the world." I thought he was going to say that the Gold Standard would ruin the industrial use of gold and is stupid anyway, but no, it's that the Rothschilds "control" it. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 19:27 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | "Matt that Blastikus guy is Ben Stiegmann. Does that answer your question?" Sort of, but now I am simply even more confused. Wouldn't TZM fall into the NWO theosophy category? | |||||
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duncanlecombre | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 21:41 |
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Level: 2 CS Original | "Question: What the hell does Merola know about economics in the first place?" He watched the film "America freedom to fascism"..............you might have seen part of it before.........in the final portion of zeitgiest, he literally just took clips from that and put them into zeitgiest. And anyone who says they have a formal education in economics is part of the "system" and is "corrupt", only people uneducated in economics know the truth of economics...DUH On a side note I wonder what other video's Merola will be ripping off to make zeitgiest 3. | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 21:42 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | CRASH ! thats gonna be a big one in his new movie guarantee it maybe a crude awakening | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 21:46 |
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You mean banking and economic conspiracies? It would have to be, considering it's the most credible portion of his two movies. Seriously, what else could he discuss? | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 21:48 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | peak oil stuff, economic crash stuff. Its all gonna be doom and gloom and then more happy Jacque He definitely has Michael Ruppert in it hes already said this | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 21:56 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | So he's going to say there's a conspiracy behind the economy, banking, and oil; and then he's going to say that global warming is obviously not a conspiracy? | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jun 16, 2010 - 21:59 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | I've no idea what he will claim, shame or blame but we already know what conclusion his premise will lead to. I think its pretty obvious its all gonna be hella bad to make you want to escape to utopia and build a city. Clips of Collapse will probably be there. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 17, 2010 - 07:07 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | The next movie will tell us that everything sucks, people are stupid but Merola loves humanity enough to try and save it. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 17, 2010 - 08:51 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | Oh it will be just perfect if presents global warming denier claims in this new version. lol You just have to remember that even though it will be narrated by him, probably be called Zeitgeist and have all the same graphic design and be distributed on the same website as the other films and Movement information... this film has absolutely _ nothing _ to _ do _ with _ the _ Movement... COUGH... | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 17, 2010 - 09:19 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I'm so tired of reading these peoples' misanthropic rants about how stupid and shitty humanity is but then turn around and say how much they would love it if only humanity would see things their way. Fuck them. Zeitgeist Movement: Feeding people with forum posts. Also, Merola's idea of 100 foot vertical organic gardens is fucking retarded. One storm and you can kiss your entire harvest goodbye. These are not serious people. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:44 |
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Level: 10 CS Original |
I think though he would say they could be inside a building. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:49 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | "I think though he would say they could be inside a building." He probably would, but then I would wonder why we are powering 100 foot tall organic gardening buildings rather than just using sun and dirt which is found everywhere for free. I don't think Merola has ever gardened in his life. We already know Fresco doesn't. | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:52 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | Because he believes there is a depletion and crash [not enough for everyone] of arable land as well. He says this in that peak oil post. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:53 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Has he never heard of compost? I mean seriously, this is retarded. | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:56 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | also if you fall into the belief that peak oil crash is imminent you then fall into the mindset that all functioning operation of equipment to farm with and manufacturing there of dies. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jun 17, 2010 - 12:57 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | But he said he doesn't care if Peak Oil is real or not. Seems like a shaky foundation to build all of your plans on. But at least he is consistent. I can't even tell if Merola really believes in Peak Oil or if it just dovetails with the narrative he is trying to sell. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 17, 2010 - 13:22 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | Well to be fair while I don't agree with the reason for it I see it does make sense. It means you don't have to worry about finding arable fertile land and like buildings building up saves resources. | |||||
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