Skeptic Project

Mr. Jacque Fresco can among other things be typified as an industrial designer, social engineer, author, futurist and inventor. His multidisciplinary view on societal issues has enabled him to make a proposition for a new design of our society: The Venus Project. It is not uncommon that mass media commentators are talking about current social issues such as global warming, the destruction of our environment, unemployment, financial crises, crime, violence, hunger, poverty and population explosion. But how often do we hear concrete plans to actually realize a solution for these issues. In this regard it can be easier to criticize society, but a much greater challenge lies in the provision of suited solutions.
http://www.inspirationdays.nl/en/main-speakers

I actually think this is a good thing. Hopefully Jacque will find himself challenged by attendees and other speakers at the conference, and hopefully that'll be evident in any emerging video of the event.

Note that there is no mention of The Zeitgeist Movement on the Inspiration Days website (no surprises there).

For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Palace

Fresco claims he wants people to not be polite and ask tough questions but isn't able to answer a question that isn't already in the pot of answers he already has. So if you ask him something he doesn't have an answer to he will just answer a question you never asked!

Okay, so he is old... so what about Roxanne?

Well she gets pissed off with you if you ask tough questions even though she is young enough to know better.

In a room full of people that haven't paid and travelled just to see him I wonder if they will be harder on them, I sure hope so.

To convince these people, Fresco would have to show them something hands on.

Like a city.

To convince these people, Fresco would have to show them something hands on.

Like a city.

He doesn't even have any working prototypes of his designs.

Apparently spreading The Word is far more important.

Mr. Jacque Fresco can among other things be typified as a racist, con man, and trainer of pigs.

Why was he a racist again?

"Why was he a racist again?"

Finding connections between racism and the old technocrats is about as hard as finding a depressed teenager.

And I'm listening to Manowar's "Guyana, Cult of the Damned" as I read these Zeitgeist Movement topics!

the exact words he uses Ed are the following:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qkb15Tfq3_E

start at 1 minute

I'm at 4 minutes and he hasn't said anything racist its just the same Fresco lecture he always gives, word for word :D

As funny as that is where's the racist part? I don't really want to wait 10 minutes as I've probably heard it all before. Do you have a more specific timestamp?

I know what you mean but remember hes the leader of a group who banned you because you had opinions about the scientific relevance and accuracy of the first movie so...

To be fair I hear the Venus Project forums never banned people for disagreeing.

As you know the ZGM are based on conspiracy theories and as such behave in a much more irrational idiotic way. And it was Peter that decided to make the new rules and he was the guy who banned me and as we know he is a truther.

Anyway, that is what he means when he talks about opinions. You shouldn't say man will never go to the moon, that's an opinion he says. He says you should say that you don't have enough information to know whether man can go to the moon. People should be more comfortable saying they don't know, he says. It seems the way he gets this point across confuses people.

All you have is a claim he joined the KKK, he then justifies this with an anecdotal story about him making videos to show members and successfully change them. But he has no evidence of the movies, no evidence of his experiments, nothing but his justification why he joined verbally.

This is not a solid defense against claims of him being a rascist for joining the KKK it is a best unsubstantiated at worst made up for damage control.

Also his mother was a full on rascist he states that everyone is taught by their peers and environment, are we to believe jacque fresco at the tender age of pre pubescence was able to realise this, and then figure out a way to engineer his mother out of it?
He claims he brought a chinese friend home and lied to his mum the kid saved his life to make her not be a rascist and it worked. This to me is a big claim because hes making out like he was unaffected by her rascism and was not a rascist [this is possible] but he himself says everyone is environment why not him ?

Essentially it boils down to he makes bold claims with no evidence and all of it seems made up and used as damage control or lies to get you to believe him.

I wouldnt say he is definitely a rascist but I would also say it is weak evidence to justify why he joined the KKK. Which casts doubt on his claims, and we know he was in the KKK.

The KKK are rascists and he was a member, his claims to join and convert them mean nothing without any evidence of all the things he says he did there.

"Are you sure he said those exact words?"
My bad its - "But If you give everyone the right to an opinion it becomes damaging" at 1:35.
I guess it being relevant to science its right but still saying that impressionable people who are going to take it literally (like at ZDay)is wrong.
But I guess some people may get the wrong idea about him if he does use it at the Peace Palace(like at Penn State Allegheny).An example of something that would probably still be based on opinions in Frescos dream world is abortion even if religion is long dead(note Im opposed to abortion even though Im an atheist and not a misogynist I still think preventing the development of an embryo into a full live human except where the life of the child/mother is in danger is morally wrong - Id suggest adoption as an alternative) my point being there will still be some issues that tread slighlty in the realm of science that will not be fully free from opinions

"I wouldnt say he is definitely a rascist but I would also say it is weak evidence to justify why he joined the KKK. Which casts doubt on his claims, and we know he was in the KKK." - Anticultist
Again this could hinder his role at Peace Palace or indeed any of future TVP/TZM.It'll take only person at the event to bring this or indeed any of the failings of TVP(thats if their anyone happens to be aware of this forum or any blogs/forums critical of him - via a quick google search beforehand)and the entire event will collapse into either farce or weird looks directed at Fresco

> his claims to join and convert them

For someone apparently so good at converting people, it always puzzled me why we never saw him on IRC, or the forums, converting us..

(Though, hats off to VTV for getting him on video/text chat kind of, and radio shows, I just wish people (Roxanne..) would let him have a chance to speak directly to someone for a while, so we can see a real dialogue, and not just a soundbite, as I think Fresco could seriously benefit from being involved in real debate with real people to help educate him about how the world really works, as I think he is out of touch and people are protecting him too much from the world.)