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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 19:34

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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I bet you have?

That's one of the first things you learn in your training is how to spot counterfeits and what you should do if you receive counterfeit money. If you don't believe me you can always try to go to a place that uses those fakey counterfeit detector pens and try to give them a bill sprayed with ironing starch and see if they give you the bill back.

I didn't know they handed out diploma's for that. How many years in school did it take to get a "detector pens" degree?

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CyborgJesus

Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 19:36

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As usually, I find myself on the side of Kaiser. First blows were fine for self-defense (and imo well-deserved), but beating somebody lying on the ground goes to far.

I have, and it ended with everyone just backing up. Why do you have to turn your back to leave a fight, matt? Honestly, i think it would have been just fine to have them go down, the guy backs up with the crow bar and see if they even try that shit again.

Or yell at them to stay down, or ask the other guys to help him hold them down, or simply state (loudly) "If you're getting up, I'll hit you again". Last one helped me avoid a bunch of fights; tell people in advance what the consequences of their decisions will be and they don't make as many bad ones.

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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 19:40

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A day, no diploma because it's required company training. It's really not hard to detect counterfeits without a fakey iodine pen.

#33

Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 19:47

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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A day, no diploma because it's required company training. It's really not hard to detect counterfeits without a fakey iodine pen.

A day of training makes a person a expert on counterfeit money detection. I don't believe it. I've seen $5 bills erases and turned into $20 bills , when that happens that ink detector pen makes your expert pen detectors with pen diploma's turns back into none experts.

Counterfeit Money
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k77h5ljBJa0

I'm not here to down the pen diploma experts though. I'm not even sure if the cashier was trying to give the money back, I do know their was a problem with it, with the accusation that it may be Counterfeit. Business establishments will find out about Counterfeit Money eventually and will turn it in but I've seen it happen where they will refuse service to someone throwing down money that looks Counterfeit without of course turning them in to the feds. This actually fits into a category called the Dark figure of crime which basically explains crime that is not reported which is a very common thing.

If it was my way I'd report anybody using Counterfeit money anywhere but it's not and it doesn't work like that sometimes crimes are not reported. McDonalds is a expert is serving good fast food but is NOT trained like a banks are in catching Counterfeit money. That's why if McDonalds accepts a counterfeit bill thinking it's real and that bill eventually goes to the bank, the bank is usually if not always the final word on catching Counterfeit bills.

I have a problem with some Zeitgeist movement members who throw paper looking money on the ground for passers by to pick up thinking it's money. Those people unknowingly could try to spend it not knowing it's fake.

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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 19:49

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He told them to stay down and she still tried to get up, so he wacked her some more. Then the camera pans out at 50 seconds. I wish we could see what was happening during that time.

#35

Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 20:06

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I totally support deadly force against violent attacks. I'm tired of the scum of the earth preying on people. The castle doctrine should be a federal law and it should apply to stupid scumbags who dare jump over counters to assault people.

Stand your ground:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine#Stand-your-ground

Castle Doctrine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

#36

Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 20:46

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There is no mandate for counterfeiting detection, it's up the the companies' stoploss programs. The placed I worked at used Secret Service information for detecting frauds. If you see Abraham Lincoln's watermark on a 100 dollar bill, that's you not paying attention.

However, you have to suspect the dollar is counterfeit. If you suspect it and you "refuse to take it" that could land you in jail. You're supposed to take it and contact secret service. Returning the bill to the passer is a felony. If you took the money and didn't know, then you're just assed out the that money is all.

On a side note, ink detector pens are frauds. That's why banks don't use them.

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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 20:53

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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Quote from CyborgJesus

As usually, I find myself on the side of Kaiser. First blows were fine for self-defense (and imo well-deserved), but beating somebody lying on the ground goes to far.

I have, and it ended with everyone just backing up. Why do you have to turn your back to leave a fight, matt? Honestly, i think it would have been just fine to have them go down, the guy backs up with the crow bar and see if they even try that shit again.

Or yell at them to stay down, or ask the other guys to help him hold them down, or simply state (loudly) "If you're getting up, I'll hit you again". Last one helped me avoid a bunch of fights; tell people in advance what the consequences of their decisions will be and they don't make as many bad ones.

The fact that the counter was blocking anyone from seeing if they were trying to get back up means we can't really say those blows were not deserving or not. I'd say they are no matter what For the people who say the last two blows were to much without seeing what went behind the counter would be a problem is I believed the last two blows were a problem.

To add to the matter that the guy was in prison for ten years. He's probably more than likely coming from a perspective of what possibly prison guards do when a fight breaks out. So when he says stay down and you come up the reaction is to hit them back down which I think is a perfectly ok thing to do to protect himself.

I'd rather he strike back to protect himself then potentially get hurt bad by those two people. The guy shouldn't be fired I'd give him a promotion, with a raise, and even a medal. I say that and I'm against the death penalty.

#38

Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 21:08

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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Quote from JimJesus

There is no mandate for counterfeiting detection, it's up the the companies' stoploss programs. The placed I worked at used Secret Service information for detecting frauds. If you see Abraham Lincoln's watermark on a 100 dollar bill, that's you not paying attention.

However, you have to suspect the dollar is counterfeit. If you suspect it and you "refuse to take it" that could land you in jail. You're supposed to take it and contact secret service. Returning the bill to the passer is a felony. If you took the money and didn't know, then you're just assed out the that money is all.

On a side note, ink detector pens are frauds. That's why banks don't use them.

I understand this I was suggesting from the start a Dark figure of crime which is crime that goes unreported which not reporting a crime is such a common occurrence that a term has developed for it. Not everybody reports kids to the feds who attempt to buy alcohol or go to strip clubs using fake id's. They should but they don't (I wouldn't care about fake i'd I'd's). Not everybody gets speeding tickets, even though they should. It happens that's all I'm saying basically not to complicated I'm not suggesting that it's not illegal to not report counterfeit money to the feds I'm suggesting it doesn't work like that for those establishments all the time.

I've actually heard of the $5 that are turned to a higher amount without the watermark on them. Anyways like I said before McDonalds are experts at making fast food not at detecting money that's counterfeit. Banks however are more sophisticated to catch fraud but banks are not equipped or sophisticated to serve fast food. I don't think that's to hard to get.

"The placed I worked at used Secret Service information for detecting frauds.", what type of information and what type of fraud detection we talking about? This strictly limited to counterfeit money fraud or other types of frauds?

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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 21:16

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WORD SALAD

Well if if you wanna goto jail, by all means break the law. Ignorance is no excuse (so I'm told.)

If McDonalds wants to loose money by not taking the 10 minutes to teach their employees in counterfeit detection, that's fine too. I hope they loose a lot of money and let their employees be whisked off to jail.

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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 21:20

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Genuine American Monster

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What are you two homos fighting about?

#41

Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 21:21

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JimJesus is a dick.

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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 21:25

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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Quote from JimJesus

Quote from 2012 CT
WORD SALAD

Well if if you wanna goto jail, by all means break the law. Ignorance is no excuse (so I'm told.)

If McDonalds wants to loose money by not taking the 10 minutes to teach their employees in counterfeit detection, that's fine too. I hope they loose a lot of money and let their employees be whisked off to jail.

Are you upset?

#43

Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 21:30

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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What are you two homos fighting about?

JIM JESUS IS WRONG!

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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 21:31

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Genuine American Monster

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Everyone is wrong but me and Rox.

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Omni-Science

Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 21:41

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I find violence as reward for this brand of stupidity and just plain rudeness to be hysterical, the result of watching douchebags get the shit beat out of them for talking shit then deciding to strike people at school.

"There is no reason why this man lost his job and got charged. He was doing what far to many refuse to do and that is working. He was well within his rights to defend himself and the safety of others (there was no way to know what they were armed with). She was verbally abusive beyond belief and at the point that she literally reached over the counter and smacked that man, she deserved whatever she got." - youtube comment.

I just happen to agree with it on all terms, especially when considering that the dude had no idea with what his assailants could have been armed with.

@Kaiser

I find you to be stuck in some lala land where honor and ethical conduct reign supreme. It's the fucking real world, broseph; I'm not going to turn my back on an attacker nor not make sure they're DOWN because it might seem overkill. I'm trying to defend myself.

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Kaiser Falkner

Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 22:29

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@Kaiser

I find you to be stuck in some lala land where honor and ethical conduct reign supreme. It's the fucking real world, broseph; I'm not going to turn my back on an attacker nor not make sure they're DOWN because it might seem overkill. I'm trying to defend myself.

Of all the people to talk about living in the real world, you're pretty low on the list brosef. Get back to me when you graduate high school and have to deal with real problems. I thought the guy went too hard on the women. You seem to want to imbue it with some hard-ass rambo rhetoric that you frankly have no claim over. I live in a la la land where I'd never do shit like that or find it ok, you live in a la la land where you're actually more bad ass than you really are.

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Omni-Science

Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 22:40

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@ Kaiser

Oh gee, the elitist argument.

I might be a lowly high schooler Herr Kaiser, but I've been in fights and seen them myself, so I don't see any reason in bringing up my status as one, or in alleging that I'm flaunting some sort of unwarranted machoness here.

2ndly, I criticize your notion of how to handle the situation because I find it too out of touch from reality to be practical, and therefore useful in the real world.

It is practical and useful to ensure that an aggressive attacker does not possess the ability to continue hostility. The dude obviously thought the chicks were (by getting up when he kept saying to keep them down), so he hit them.

Good game.

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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 22:42

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Genuine American Monster

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You should probably walk away from this one Omni.

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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 22:50

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Everyone is wrong but me and Rox.

You mean Rox and I. /l2grammar

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Posted: Oct 19, 2011 - 22:51

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Genuine American Monster

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nou

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Posted: Oct 20, 2011 - 06:06

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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McDonalds is a Austrian Economics!

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Posted: Oct 20, 2011 - 06:48

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Quote from Omni-Science

I might be a lowly high schooler Herr Kaiser, but I've been in fights and seen them myself,

At least Kaiser isn't trying to sound tough. While I do disagree with Kaiser's judgment on the guy, I am in agreement that in the same exact situation, I personally wouldn't of kept hitting them.

I've never met somebody on the internet who couldn't fight.

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Posted: Oct 20, 2011 - 09:38

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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me?

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PETER JOSEPH MEROLA CALLS US A BUNCH OF POOP THROWING MONKEYS THEREFORE I FIGHT WITH MY POOP!!!

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Posted: Oct 20, 2011 - 09:41

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I've never met somebody on the internet who couldn't fight.

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Omni-Science

Posted: Oct 23, 2011 - 01:04

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I'll concede that my words gave a "macho" vibe. That wasn't my intention; no one here would be impressed by it and I've fully aware of that.

But Kaiser's elitist argument is still weak and spongy.

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Kaiser Falkner

Posted: Oct 23, 2011 - 07:24

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Quote from Omni-Science

But Kaiser's elitist argument is still weak and spongy.

Much like your brain. Next time you think you have some sort of right to a haughty position with which to engage with me, stuff it. You don't. Didn't appreciate it and your entire premise for disagreeing with me was bullshit.

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Posted: Oct 23, 2011 - 09:20

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Genuine American Monster

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Kaiser's argument wasn't elitist. It was idealistic. Not the same thing at all.

Idealistic arguments are not inherently wrong, although they are harder to defend.

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