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sorry | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 14:57 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | Has anyone experienced negative consequences to critical / skeptical thinking? I've become noticeably more critical and skeptical over the past few months. It's helped me in many ways, but it's also starting to affect me personally. For example, I struggle to have a conversation with family members who spew irrational arguments. Where I used to brush over the irrationality, I'm now finding myself correcting and challenging them. In another realm of personal experience, I find myself unable to watch mainstream media. The news drives me crazy with the sensational, biased reporting; commercials just about drive me to insanity; and even movies fall short of expectations. I used to love the movie Ocean's 11. I watched it last night and realized the whole movie is contrived to such an extent that I can no longer appreciate the thieves' miraculous success. I understand that it's just a movie, but with all of the plot holes I'm now trained to spot, it isn't as entertaining. Has anyone else has similar experience? I prefer the life of a skeptic, but it's had its trials. | |||||
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Kaiser Falkner | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 15:52 |
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HAIL HYDRA Level: 6 CS Original | Welcome to the problems of meta-cognition. | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 16:03 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | I can't watch movies like National Treasure or The DaVinci Code. I want to shout at the screen, "THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS THE ILLUMINATI OR THE PRIORY OF SCION!!!!! THEY DON'T FREAKING EXIST!!!!" So, yes, I do. | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 16:55 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | Yes, it make be absolutely hate Lost's ending. What a load of incoherent nonsense! | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 17:12 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | I didn't like National Treasure or The DaVinci Code, but that's because they were garbage movies, not because of the conspiracy stuff inside. I really like the X-Files and most of those episodes have something to do with conspiracies, such as the Cancer Man being the guy who actually shot Kennedy -- I thought they told that conspiracy theory really well, actually, sounded much better than most of the stuff you hear on the Internet. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 17:39 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | I can't think of any negative ways in which it has affected my life. My uncle and my dad like to spout a lot of new-age mumbo jumbo like sacred geometry. They've been doing it for a long time, and before I would just be like "yeah, sure... whatever". But after learning a lot about CT's, I also have learned a lot about pseudoscience and quack medicine, so it's nice to be able to engage them (on friendly terms of course) every once in awhile. Edit: @Aaron >>"For example, I struggle to have a conversation with family members who spew irrational arguments. Where I used to brush over the irrationality, I'm now finding myself correcting and challenging them." I guess that's the same thing I have, with friends and family... I don't view it as a negative thing though. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 17:49 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | Arguing is like a sport in my family, and everyone wants to be champion. Overall though, I don't have any real change in my life, I used to question the hell out of things even before I published my review of Zeitgeist which created this site. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 17:54 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | I recall watching bits of Zeitgeist when it first came out, I didn't delve too far into it but I figured it was true. Just thinking like 'well, if this wasn't true surely someone would have pointed it out... I mean, no one would make a documentary about something fake, right?'. Boy was I wrong. I won't lie when I say that this website really changed my life for the better in the critical thinking aspect. Opened up a lot of doors and what not. | |||||
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Genogza | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 18:01 |
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Life's Too Short Level: 1 CS Original | I have to agree with Ferseus on this one. I just didn't like those movies because they didn't do it for me, but I love other stuff like that. I've always been into CT's mainly because some of it is fascinating storytelling. Key word: "Storytelling" I actually thought that while Zeitgeist was full of shit, I was still thoroughly entertained. To me it's all entertainment. | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 18:23 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | I might have overstated the case...I don't dislike National Treasure and DaVinci Code simply because they're about conspiracies, but they're not good enough movies to make me accept them for entertainment value, which is why I can't help shouting about the conspiracies in them. Many people find this strange, but while I hate JFK assassination conspiracies with a passion, and I hate that the movie has made them mainstream, Oliver Stone's "JFK" is one of my favorite movies from an entertainment standpoint. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 18:25 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | @ Genogza, I guess I'm different. If I were to watch something like Zeitgeist again, I'd become so irate at the fact that some asshole is flat out lying and gaining the attention of ignorant, gullible people. I am willing to watch Fox News and listen to Rush Limbaugh for entertainment, however. | |||||
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Edward L Winston | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 18:27 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | I didn't like JFK, the president or the movie. I'm trying to think of other fictional conspiracy films I do like, but I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I know there are some. I do listen to Talk Radio though with Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hanity, Michael Savage, Glenn Beck, and a few other nameless people, including Laura Ingram. I guess I listen so that when I'm in the car, I'll get so angry it'll help me get through rush hour traffic faster by knocking other cars off the road. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 18:34 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | My gym usually has Fox on, and I always go right when Glenn is on... gives me some extra energy to channel. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 18:37 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | Beck has gone a little wacko for Beck standards. His television show is really eery - he has these posters of the founding fathers, chalk boards with flow charts leading to dead ends, beige pants that don't match his shirt and jacket, and this nauseating tone toward patriotism that makes me feel really cold and uncomfortable. At least Limbaugh makes the world sound dangerously exciting. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 18:42 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | Yeah, today is Founding Father's Friday! | |||||
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Genogza | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 19:08 |
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Life's Too Short Level: 1 CS Original | aaron, you shouldn't let that stuff bother you. You gotta be more laid back and relaxed about it, and open minded. And by open minded, I don't mean "Believe it", I mean accept that some people have some whacked out views. Almost every CT'er I've run across personally(internet is a different story) are harmless, decent people who are just a little kooky on politics. The most harm any of them have done to me is ask, "Wanna watch this DVD?" Hardly anything to worry about. I would definitely agree with some of the others here, though. Neo-con radio and TV sometimes gets my blood boiling. I may not be a fan of news from the left either, but Neo-cons actually(and hypocritically I might add) promote violence. | |||||
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domokato | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 20:00 |
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Level: 4 CS Original | I'm currently reading this paper on the evolution of cognitive biases: http://www.gregbryant.org/soccog09.pdf</p> They might actually help you survive better, strangely enough. I'm pretty sure I've had negative effects from being too rational and not being able to irrationally recruit social allies when I needed them, as retarded as that sounds. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Jun 04, 2010 - 20:03 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | Thanks for that, domokato. I'll send it to my Kindle and read it later. | |||||
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