Skeptic Project

I watched the Zeitgeist triology and I am very interested in the ideas of Jacques Fresco.

go away

That's not a very nice welcome!

I am intellectually curious about something. I have entered these forums to discover information about an movement and the first thing you tell me to do is "go away"?

Seriously, anticultist, is that all you have to say?

I may as well return to the HIQ blogs, where people are more welcoming. I am not, however, one to be bullied.

To think I PM'd you, trying to find out information and you treat someone with disdain.

I'm sorry Jim Jesus, I am a little discombobulated by your posts: I am new here, and I am willing to listen.

Can you elaborate a little more about the sensory deprivation?

Do you think the current system really fufills the unspoken needs of nine billion people? Human behaviour is defined by the environment we live in; needs and wants are conditioned.

Advertising is a crass form of indoctrination, as we all know. How many people want things because they are conditioned to believe "X" has value?

Shut up Hardy. GTFO, etc.

TZM is based on myopic garbaged that no intellectual or activist would ever take seriously. It says its about science, but its not- its based on dreams with no awareness of the complex realities at hand. Be very wary of any system that claims to know all the problems of man kind and how to solve them.

This isn't a TZM, TVP or RBE forum. If you want to discuss what you like about those "ideas," find a forum related to them. This isn't one.

We've covered this topic endlessly, and I have no interest in holding the hand of another idiotic kid who watched some YouTube movies and thinks he's figured out the secret of life.

Fuck off, etc. There's your manners.

I'm not sorry for being rude.

"Can you elaborate a little more about the sensory deprivation?"

"The city was then designed from the ground up, according to an elaborate and unified plan. Housing, work, recreation, traffic, and public administration were each spatially segregated."[9] Costa planned out enormous, empty, square plazas for recreation, and gigantic, geometric monuments for the glorification of the state. The planners even decided how many citizens would reside in Brasília: 557,000.

But when people first came to live in the newly constructed city, they found this perfectly legible landscape deeply disorienting. "Compared to life in Rio and Sao Paulo, with their color and variety, the daily round in bland, repetitive, austere Brasília … resembled life in a sensory deprivation tank."[10] And the new residents even coined the term brasilite — meaning "Brasília-itis" — to describe the effect of living there.

"Do you think the current system really fufills..."
I'm going to stop you there because I don't care, I'm not for this "current system" nor does it matter. You can't prove creationism by debunking evolution. Tell us how this will work.

I know Jim you would think you would fucking know better than to entertain a concern troll.

He would only get into a long winded diatribe about how we were wrong about TVP and how we were acting inapropriately in the way we talk about it and treat their members.

This guy was clearly hook line and sinkered about it and just pretending to be here to debate the negatives.

The give away is the quote I put up in my first reply.

Instantly, I'm a troll? *Sighs*

All I have done is join a website which has a lot of interesting posters, whom I wish to learn from. I found some of these posts through the net because I am quite objective and willing to listen, rather than indolently believe something. After expressing an interest, I am told to "go away", branded a "concern troll" and "fuck off". I think there is a lot of paranoia around here...

FYI, Matt, I am 26 and a teacher. Your straw man argument is quite poor -- please don't attempt to find implicit or alternative meanings in my posts because it is quite disingenuous. You are obviously guilty of ignoratio elenchi, and like a lot of people over the internet, you are getting brave from behind your computer screen.

Whilst I am sure this is a cathartic experience for you, as face to face communication requires greater tact, please refrain from future self-titillation from stomping on social boundaries.

I haven't sworn at anyone and I am not rude to people. Perhaps, you could just say, "Nice to vitually meet you, buddy. There is a lot of information on "x link" :)" et cetera.

I am bowing out now -- I will read the posts and may participate when I have gained some more knowledge.

At IHIQS and Torr, it is a lot friendlier. I haven't assumed to have found any great truths, I just wished to discuss a few things in an earnest way. Enjoy your flaming.

JimJesus - thanks for the information you have posted, it is most interesting. It seems you are the only poster I have come into contact with who is genuine, so thanks, mate.

All the best to you, Hardy.

Matt -- that is exactly why I entered these forums. I want to examine all perspectives regarding something I haven't professed to have an amazing knowledge of. You're right; I am a noob. Should I have to apologise for that?

Perhaps I should just allow myself to be indoctrinated; that, it seems, would be something you would prefer.

Yea, this guy is a total tool.

holy shit does anybody read the site anymore or just come to the forums? but yeah, this guy's a troll

but you're a regular, I mean people looking for information on zeitgeist, alex jones, etc