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anticultistPosted: May 14, 2011 - 19:45
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OK theres another way we could prove if VTV did this

Your wordpress or other blog will have an email assigned to it, when a person makes a comment the email is notified and the message with all its content and sender data is put into the email.

If James Kush wanted to prove VTV sent this message all he would have to do is the following.

Set a video capture on his screen, log into his email account, open up the VTV email and capture the email unedited and all its details for the viewer to see. This would include the emails header, which would have the IP, the position of origination, the date of send, the time, and then last but not least the content of the email should match the posts on his blog if it was not unedited.

Et voila

Plautus Satire did this very thing to show Peter Joseph Merola threatening him and swearing at him in emails. He showed himself logging into his account in real time and finding the emails and scrolling through them all looking at all the necessary data to show what Peter Merola sent him.

You have to capture it all in real time though to show you havent edited the video or the emails, there needs to be focus on the emails header and all the details in it so people can check the details of it all. As well as the unedited content if the email showing the format it arrived from your blog into your email account.

Can you do this?

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anticultistPosted: May 14, 2011 - 19:51
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VTV is having a pissy fit over on his own forum right now about all this, but if you do this it should be enough to satisfy a few people.

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Agent MattPosted: May 14, 2011 - 19:51
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I was given Merola's family's Facebook profiles quite a long time ago, and I didn't do anything with them because that's just not how I roll. So I can relate to Kush's desire to destroy TZM/TVP but without crossing certain lines to do it.

I find dealing with VTV's shit to be draining and exhausting. I'm tired as a motherfucker.

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MuertosPosted: May 14, 2011 - 20:32
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I also have access to Merola's family's info. I've never publicized it, nor am I even interested. I don't remember their names or where they live and don't care to look it up to find out. It's just not relevant.

I think the evidence is conclusive that VTV leaked the info. In the absence of any evidence that Kush altered the posts--and a supposed motive is a very long way from evidence--I don't see any escape from the conclusion that VTV did this and is trying to cover his tracks.

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The Real RoxettePosted: May 15, 2011 - 02:23
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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If I could jump on this bandwagon: Edward (site creator) has gotten at least several different emails over the last few years with Merola's real information, family information, etc. It seems as though CS isn't full of people who will stoop to the level of VTV.

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 08:37
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Or it means that Kush had access to the information and therefore could of easily edited the posts. I did not have that information. I had no reason to look for it.

Nobody has been able to give any logical reason for motive. Which still makes me chuckle about this whole thing. Even Machwon Matt's lover said that he couldn't figure out what my motive would of been. Because I would not have one. There is no benefit that could come out of that for me.

People here have just simply decided in their confirmation bias that a little matter like "motive" which is generally very important to a case is not important here for some reason.

(The reason the motive is not important to the people here is because they don't like me personally so having to explain a little thing like why I would do something so intentionally self destructive is just not convenient.)

All the "evidence" is conclusive of is that I did at one time post on his blog. And that posts put on his blog can be edited to say whatever James Kush wanted them to say. And that if he did so it would not change the time, IP, or leave any trace that it was done.

James would have motive to do this. I have no motive to help James Kush attack Peter's parents.

I would also point out that for all of James's "concern" about how "wrong" it is that I supposedly did this, he did not delete the posts in question. And he said "thanks for the links".

So we are supposed to believe that after I defeated him in the debate on the Rick Ross cult watch forums that my next act would be to make two posts on his blog saying nothing other then linking Peter's parents FB accounts. (That is what the blog post in question was about.)

And that I chose to do so for some reason in my own name? On his publicly viewable blog?

I don't care about it anymore. But the confirmation bias in some people is something that always makes me chuckle. It amazes me how you guys will be so critical of someone else's assertions about one conspiracy theory or another. But you feel qualified to make character judgements about people whom you have never met, or even interacted with for any length of time in person. I watch as you guys make up "conspiracy theories" about things going on in organizations that you dislike and then the whole time go after anyone for doing the same thing when it comes to governments or whatever. You guys make baseless statements constantly.

Like: "The only reason VTV agrees with Brittany Smith is because she is attractive. Wait she looks like she is only about 15! VTV must be a pedophile!"

(Brittany is in her twenties. I had not even looked at her picture.)

Like: "Peter Joseph pulled down VTV and Thunder's Radio show links from the main website. He must of done it due to their bickering."

Note, you guys just came up with this out of thin air. There is no evidence to support that. Statements like that come out of here all the time. You make up the theories then start repeating them and then start saying those things as if they are proven facts.

James Kush says: "The Venus Project dumped The Zeitgeist Movement in favor of Exemplar Zero. And Exemplar Zero is now the Venus Project's "sponsor"."

This was something else just made up on the fly. And was totally bogus. But people passed it around to troll the movement without giving it any critical thought.

Like: Brittany is VTV. No evidence for this at all. Just an assumption on your part. Yet you repeat it like it's "true" or "verified'.

Mack Davenport made an ass out of all of you who just ran to the troll trough and started licking the bullshit out of it with your tongues that he was feeding you. You would literally believe anything negative that anyone tells you about anyone you are trolling. Then you have the balls to claim to be thinking more clearly then any conspiracy theorists, even though you do exactly what the more fanatical conspiracy theorists do. If it's juicy it must be true.

This is the reason why people who are not caught up in your stupid clique here don't really take this place too seriously. Well, that and the endless juvenile insult spam. That's another thing Machwon pointed out on Kush's blog that I thought was funny. Every time you do that you further prove why nobody who is actually above grammar school maturity should ever give a shit about what you say. It makes you all look like the pseudo-intellectuals you are.

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 08:43
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Oh, one of my other favorite parts of this whole thing was the few very weak attempts at motive that were suggested.

1. That I did this in retaliation for my radio show not being on the official site anymore.

(Those posts were posted back in March. My radio show was still on the website at that point.)

That is a classic example of total confirmation bias and logic fail. And another example of how you guys just make shit up to fill in the blanks.

2. It was all part of some elaborate plan on my part to discredit James Kush...

Seriously folks. This is right up there with the people who deny the moon landing.

3. That I did it in retaliation for the few people who were trying to have me removed as a moderator.

Right... so some people put together a petition to remove me as a moderator. So the obvious answer to solve this would be to retaliate against... Peter... who is the only person with the ability to remove me as a global moderator? That makes perfect sense.

This is the kind of stupidity that came out of this group of people who act like they are superior to people who believe in a lot of crazy stuff.

I am looking forward to more motive theories. It has been perhaps the funniest part of this whole thing and I have to say I am not surprised you guys keep avoiding it or just playing the "well your crazy" card. You guys have called me an egomaniac, and a control freak. You have said I am scamming people out of money. Or that I am a brainwashed cult member and that I supposedly worship Peter. None of these things is in any way aided by me attacking Peter's parents. So now you have to desperately run for the "well your crazy so who knows why you did it!!!" theory. Even though if all those other things you said about me were true then it would be the last thing I would do.

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Evil ElvisPosted: May 19, 2011 - 08:47
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STFU!

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Do you actually do anything? How do you contribute to the movement, surely not by arguing on internet.

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 08:53
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Oh wait, another theory:

Like: "You are desperate for Peter's attention. You want him to talk to you so bad that you did this to get his attention..."

Even though I talk to him on a regular basis, and giving a nutcase like Kush his parent's FB profiles would not exactly help my relationship with him if it was so "important" to me.

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 08:54
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Elvis, is that seriously the best answer you can come up with? I mean come on. At least call me fat and poor or something. If the best you can do is squeak out "What do you even do for the movement?" then you are failing as a troll.

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Agent MattPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:08
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He doesn't do anything for TZM but try to get people to his site so he can sell them worthless capitalist trinkets stamped with a stolen cartoon of Fresco.

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:12
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I see you are still running away from the question of motive and regulating yourself instead to just attacking me personally.

You guys are so predictable. :)

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:16
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Also Matt, there you go again proving that I would have no motive. If my motive was to sell more trinkets (Which I don't make very much money off of at all) giving Kush Peter's information would not help that at all.

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Agent MattPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:17
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I already said I don't care about the motives of crazy people. Try to keep up fatboy.

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:21
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Right Matt. And that is a cop out. You have no evidence to back up any theory that I am mentally disturbed in the first place. And certainly no evidence to back up any theory that I would just randomly decide to do that.

You can keep calling me fat like the little cowardly troll you are. It won't change that. Though I am sure you would like it to. :)

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Agent MattPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:24
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Well if you ever find a new wife to work fast food so you can fund a trip to Oklahoma, I'm your huckleberry.

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:39
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"Well if you ever find a new wife to work fast food so you can fund a trip to Oklahoma, I'm your huckleberry."

Hey Matt, just a clue man. The desire to beat up people you have never met over an argument on the internet is fairly abnormal.

You really need to deal with whatever makes you so mad at home that causes you to cowardly look for victims on the internet who can't hit you back. :)

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Agent MattPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:41
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So now you're a victim? Someone forced you to come here and post?

Do you ever take responsibility for anything or is that a totally alien concept?

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:52
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No. Clearly you are the victim. Which is why you post here about me even when I am not here. Or when I am not posting to you or about you. You like many other sick humans choose to deal with your own insecurities by trying to make someone else more insecure then you are.

And now you want to beat me up because I am doing a great job of exposing the truth. And that is that your just another scared little man with a keyboard and an internet connection who likes to pride himself on hurting other people. Meanwhile, you think you have the right to judge other people's sanity. Or their value in life based on how much money they make or where they live. Or how fat they are.

It must be really sad to be you. I often find myself wondering if you are neglecting your wife, or your family sitting here doing nothing of worth. I am sure you justify it somehow. Most trolls do. You justify it by saying "Oh well they deserve it! They are stupid conspiracy theorists!" but rarely do you even talk about that. You talk about me being fat, or poor, or living in a trailer park, or being unemployed.

Someone must of really pushed you around a lot about these issues. I know people who make an awful lot of money who are completely worthless human beings. And I know people who are poor who are some of the most charitable and good people I have ever met. Clearly everyone who lives in a trailer park deserves your ire? There could not be anyone who lives in a trailer park who is a worthwhile human being.

The measure of a human being is clearly where they live. And anyone who is poor? Well they are worthless. Did someone tell you that growing up?

Wait... and more to the point, you said you want to beat me up. And apparently since you keep repeating it over and over again the reason you dislike me is because I am fat, poor, and live in trailer park. So, now people who are overweight, happen to be poor and happen to live in a trailer park deserve to be "punched in their fucking face"?

Guess we should just round up the poor and beat them all up. That makes perfect sense.

And you say I am the one who is crazy? :)

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Agent MattPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:53
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tl;dr

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:56
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Keep sputtering and stuttering Matt. Maybe get together a hit squad to go beat up some people living in trailer parks. That will make you feel better about whatever makes you sick enough to think that hurting people is an acceptable past time.

Come on Matt, call me fat and poor again. That will make you feel better won't it? That will make you look smarter then me wont it? You know you want to.

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anticultistPosted: May 19, 2011 - 09:57
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fat cunt didnt read

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 10:03
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Oh look Matty, Paul Jones came to rescue you from the intellectual ass kicking your getting. He came to save the day. Poor guy. Don't worry, you are safe now. Paul and his UFO obsession will save you!

Now if the two of you gang up on me it will somehow look like you are winning.

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The Real RoxettePosted: May 19, 2011 - 10:47
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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There's so many strawmen and redherrings in VTV posts in this thread I feel like I'm at a fish and barbecue cook off in Nebraska.

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VTVPosted: May 19, 2011 - 10:50
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Roxette, I would like to see the straw men and red herrings. Please point them out to me.

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The Real RoxettePosted: May 19, 2011 - 10:53
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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Bringing up UFOs seems a tad bit off topic, don't you think?

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Caramel ColorPosted: May 19, 2011 - 12:50
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hey sailor

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"And now you want to beat me up because I am doing a great job of exposing the truth. And that is that your just another scared little man with a keyboard and an internet connection who likes to pride himself on hurting other people. Meanwhile, you think you have the right to judge other people's sanity. Or their value in life based on how much money they make or where they live."

I didnt read the whole thread and I'm not going to, but this stuck out at me. VTV, Matt, everyone else in here doesnt hate you because you are fat, poor, and lazy (you clearly have no hard work to do if you've spent days replying to people here), that's just extra stuff to hate you for.

What people really hate about you is your inability to own up to the truth (Liz), your completely unwarranted sense of superiority about everything, the way you've created absolutely nothing but instead piggyback on other movements/groups or just outright steal their concepts, and the way you consistently try to insert yourself into a position of power. Why should they give you any power? You're not particularly insightful, you have no formal education, you've held ONE job in your life (if I'm not mistaken), and you have the audacity to beg for money on the internet. And let's not forget spousal abuse; that makes you a piece of shit, period.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is, you're a loser. You're completely insignificant. You were born on third base yet you believe you've hit a triple, as the saying goes. You will die having changed nothing. But you strut around here like you're Mary Queen of Scots, Brangelina and Jesus Christ rolled into one. In short, if you kill yourself tonight, I wonder how long it will take for the police to find what will be left of your stinking, cat-nibbled corpse.

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Caramel ColorPosted: May 19, 2011 - 12:51
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hey sailor

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I DARE you to list one thing you've accomplished with your life. And creating children doesn't count, any retard can do that.

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Omni-SciencePosted: May 19, 2011 - 14:08
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Ordo Ab Chao.

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I disagree. He must've figured out some ingenious way of keeping his fat out of the way long enough to procreate (30 secs).

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alexastormPosted: May 19, 2011 - 22:00
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Why, thank you Caramel Color. You have just touched upon a number of things that were on my mind here. It's not that there is a problem with poor people or those who reside in trailers in general. It's this walking waste of human flesh. Failure as a husband, failure as a father, failure as a man. Begging for money on the internet because he is too lazy to work, trying to blame that laziness on the cost of day care, having "tenants" in a damn trailer and he still can't pay the rent. I second your dare. And being part of a non-movement is not an accomplishment either.

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