Skeptic Project

ZG Terrorists: I wonder if such a thing will ever exist. Maybe one day, if the government see the ZGM as a threat they will brand us as such. But I am talking about real ZG terrorists. Members of this movement who believe violence will bring about the change they want.

I have asked myself a few big questions recently, like 'would i consider terrorism as a means to achieve our goals?' and 'Are we no better than those who use terror if we use it?'

The answers I found within myself are, to say the least, conflicting.

I have always been a moral person, I believe in the sanctity of life and that it should be protected at all costs. I believe violence is wrong.
But I believe in something else too, I believe the ZGM and the VP will ultimately fail. I believe the occupants of the Earth are too entrenched in this system to ever let it go. We have become used to this blindness. After thinking about it for a while, I came up with another question. This is the most complicated ethical dilemma I have ever come across in my life. Imagine a future where war, disease or any number of disasters have destroyed the Earth, and humanity is sparse. Imagine a person looking back at their history, to now. They open up a history book and look at the work of the ZGM and the VP today. They see that the VP failed because they did not use force or direct action to attain their goals. That person thinks to themselves: 'If they had taken action then most of the world may not have been destroyed.' But. alas, the world has ended and humanity will die.

I guess the point I am trying to make is, although terrorism and hurting people is wrong, is it not more wrong to let the current system destroy everything? Quite a utilitarian view, I know.

I would like some feedback to this, I feel confused.

Thank you,

Jonny

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=231&id=335080&Itemid=100114#335080

But what if it is not enough? Just because an alternative exists doesn't mean that people will accept it. Also, if the government are as corrupt as the ZGM suggests, they will not let the VP alternative exist in reality.

Terrorists and freedom fighters have always existed for a reason. Because they are forced to take action.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=231&id=335080&Itemid=100114#335106

Nope. All will be crushed eventually.

Tamil Tigers got butt-fucked a few years back. My guess is that most of those terrorist groups will follow.

This zeitard probably supports all of the above groups, claiming they are simply "freedom fighters" against the corrupt system.

O_O

Sounds like a post the FBI should know about... especially considering Loughner :S

Not to mention that any one of their paranoid members can easily justify it by saying anyone who doesn't support them is a government agent.

It is actually really common for conspiracy theorists to believe that, just go on Youtube and post on a conspiracy video disagreeing with them or laughing at them..

Topic is still open. Evidently the mods at TZM find terrorism acceptable.

Isn't this the "oh I'm so scared and alone" guy? A wee bit psychotic, I think. If the FBI isn't already watching they will be soon.

Although I disagree with the TZM ideology, the biggest put off for me is the fact that so many members seem to be mentally ill psychopaths who have failed at life.

If I were ever going to support an RBE (its a long shot), it sure wouldn't be TZM.

EZ,

The funny thing I realised recently is thats TVP idea isn't that crazy, its just wrong and Fresco has made money off people and not doing anything real with his life. Blah blah blah okay whatever.

But my point is with the Zeitgeist Movement you get conspiracy theorists interested in it and you get nutters like the one in this thread saying he will be having to use terrorism to spread the word about TVP and the RBE.

TVP has never been associated with this level of crazy before Zeitgeist as far as I know.

So you've changed your tune about accusing me of cherry picking this stuff?

That's not what I asked.

^ Good defense, and a RBE is not science...