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mikejohnsonPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 17:32
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I have heard Pat Buchanan talk about the New World Order my question is does he mean it the sameway that Alex Jones does ?

2000 - Pat Buchanan's definition of the New World Order

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57NHBkcjs3M

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scitopsPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 17:41
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mikejohnsonPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 18:08
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Maybe I don't understand but Pat Buchanan did work for Presidents Nixon Ford and Reagan why does he admire and respect these Pesidents if Alex Jones says the Presidents are Puppets of the New World Order ?

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KeppPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 18:29
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There are many variations of the NWO.

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mikejohnsonPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 18:53
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What do you mean by there are many variations of the NWO do you have any links thank you ?

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 18:57
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To some people the NWO is Jews.
To some people the NWO is the UN.
To some people the NWO is the Freemasons.
To some people the NWO is the Democratic party.
To some people the NWO is the Republican party.
To some people its a mix of everything that reminds them that they live in chaotic and unpredictable world.

There is no coherent definition.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 19:00
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Also, New World Order was used, especially after World War I and World War II to describe the reshaping of the geopolitical order. Essentially, once a side is defeated in a conflict, the other side is free to really start to shape the world in the way it sees fit, and the US has done that since the collapse of the USSR under its own vision for the "world order" or, literally, the way in which things are done. There will be many more "world orders" each of which are new. But its better than the Old World Order... you know, where we were all serfs.

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mikejohnsonPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 19:00
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Can one believe this in this New World Order Conspiracy and still admire Republican or Democratic Presidents and be a Republican or a Democrat like Pat Buchananan are there people who believe that the New World Order are the Corporations and not the U.S. Government thank you ?

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 19:25
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The people who believe that's the case are wrong and done understand political realities or even some basic international study questions. How would corporations be in charge of the "New World Order" and where is the proof for that?

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The Real RoxettePosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 19:54
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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The NWO is anyone who you want it to be. It's an invisible, far away monster you can focus all of your fears onto. Just like Matt listed above, it's all about your religion... I mean beliefs.

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mikejohnsonPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 19:55
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Well how does Pat Buchanan believe that there will be a New World Order yet still work for Presidents ?

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 19:57
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He probably doesn't really believe it and just says it to appeal to the crazies who support him.

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The Real RoxettePosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 19:57
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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He's probably of the mindset that the NWO is some far off, foreign (and slightly domestic) conspiracy to destroy American sovereignty.

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mikejohnsonPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 20:04
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Ok so your saying he propably thinks that the New World Order is a foreign conspiracy that does not control America yet ?

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 20:04
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The dude's a hardcore Catholic, which means he's part of the NWO.

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The Real RoxettePosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 20:07
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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mikejohnson,

I'm not sure, but I imagine it's like most people who believe in the NWO: whatever suits their current argument. If they need it to be a foreign, outside force threatening America, it will be. If they need it to be a force already destroying America from the inside, it will be.

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scitopsPosted: Apr 14, 2011 - 20:15
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I believe Buchanan is an anti-semite who believes in a combination of people like the Jews and the Rockefellers as well as the communinsts in the UN are plotting to destroy American sovernigty.

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EzPosted: Apr 15, 2011 - 07:20
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I think Matt is right, the thing with being on the right is that the militia nuts, christian fundies, conspiracy nuts, etc do make up a decent amount.

I personally don't think people like Donald Trump are actually birthers, I just think that they don't want to risk alienating people who may otherwise support someone else if they realise they don't believe their ranting nonsense. It is pretty obvious by how the right always avoid the question of whether they think Obama is a natural born citizen or not when its asked.

Not to mention that if you don't believe building 7 was "pulled" and the UN is an evil organisation you are branded as being another NWO puppet, which equals no support from the crazies.

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