Skeptic Project

Come over and add your facts about their lack of scientific method and lack of scientific evidence:

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This will be an ongoing adapted thread. Watch and learn.
Firstly I will discuss the Scientific Method:

Scientific method refers to a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning. A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses.
Although procedures vary from one field of inquiry to another, identifiable features distinguish scientific inquiry from other methodologies of knowledge. Scientific researchers propose hypotheses as explanations of phenomena, and design experimental studies to test these hypotheses. These steps must be repeatable in order to dependably predict any future results. Theories that encompass wider domains of inquiry may bind many independently derived hypotheses together in a coherent, supportive structure. This in turn may help form new hypotheses or place groups of hypotheses into context.
Among other facets shared by the various fields of inquiry is the conviction that the process must be objective to reduce biased interpretations of the results. Another basic expectation is to document, archive and share all data and methodology so they are available for careful scrutiny by other scientists, thereby allowing other researchers the opportunity to verify results by attempting to reproduce them. This practice, called full disclosure, also allows statistical measures of the reliability of these data to be established.

The above lays out what the Scientific Method actually is, since the Venus Project and The Zeitgeist Movement have absolutely no actual data they have gathered, other than speculation and anecdotes it is precise to say they are not even imposing the scientific method.
They could wriggle out of this by claiming they use observable facets of society [relating this to empirical evidence], but since the observations they tend to make and utilise are based on flawed opinions, conspiracy theories, and Jacques utilisation of other peoples research he has not validated himself we can throw this one out straight away.

Since they have actively shown by their admin behaviour and from Jacque & Roxanne lack of ability to advance and correct their knowledge and even integrate new ideas into their plans we can throw this out.
Since they have no empirical and measurable data or evidence to validate any claims they make we can throw this out.
Since they have carried out no experimentations on their spurious claims we can throw this one out.
Since they havent formulated any hypothesis and ran any tests to validate them whatsoever from any of the above quantifiable details we can throw this one out.
Since everything must be objective and free from biases to be considered a true scientific method we can throw this one out too, their forum and claims are riddled with self-defensive biases.
Since nothing on their forum or what Jacque claims is laid out in specific steps and can be considered a repeatable scientific method and experiment we can throw this one out.
Since Jacque does not allow anything he claims to have documented or calculated to be viewed and scrutinised and retested by any scientific peers, since there is no full disclosure and no apparent fully documented tests and data collection we can throw this one out.
Peters videos have been scrutinised and critiqued and long since proven factually incorrect on many fundamental grounds, including statements made and conclusions, and he has not attempted once to redress his mistakes or correct them publicly after being pointed out, this goes completely against the scientific method.
Bear in mind there is not a single scientist carrying out any tests, data collection, experimentation, hypothesis making for the entire venus project. everything is based on Jacques claims.
So what we are left with is their claim to use the scientific method and to talk about existing scientific breakthroughs and updates on their forum, which has little implications to the venus project. Jacques plan is unchangeable and its his way or no way at all. He himself has nothing to offer but anecdotal stories from his long forgotten past with no evidence to provide what he is saying is true and testable.

>> We should probably take this blog more seriously than we are, as they are slandering Jacque and Peter, thus breaking the law, plus providing non-skeptical minds with one-sided arguments against the Venus Project. A very big PR issue in my mind.

Slander? What did I say? Did I say Jacque and Peter blow goats together? It's not slander if what I say is true or based on opinion of what they claim. I say "bring it on." I'd *love* for this to get dragged to a court, Muertos can be my lawyer, and we can get thousands of people in the media to make you look like Scientologists by suing people who disagree with you. Except, unlike them, not even Tom Cruise is crazy enough to jump on board the sinking ship of TZM.

The idea of anyone from TZM/TVP suing me would give my web site much more attention, and make them look like the pseudo-intellectual douche bags they are.

>> Giving this person attention only satisfies his arrogance that things posted or invented are actually having an effect in his disinfo campaign.

Oh, no, I've been figured out! I don't think PJ would know anything about arrogance, it's not like he ignored everything the majority his leadership wanted, or some of his most active members.

Or the fact that he believes he's above logic, law, and the media, and that somehow, magically everything will work out for the better when you ignore your critics and give your enemies -- especially in the media -- all the fire power they need to make you look like a total idiot.

Don't worry, he'll have *millions* of members after the third movie comes out and doesn't tell people how to actually do anything other than "spread the word."

Also, it takes a total arrogant douche to think 360,000 news letter subscribers are actual members of his movement.

I honestly didn't even read the linked post, I assumed it was about me because I'm super arrogant.

"I'd *love* for this to get dragged to a court, Muertos can be my lawyer..."

Sorry Edward, as of this summer I'm taking down the shingle and trading in my briefcase and wing-tips for the proverbial tweed suit and bow tie of academia.

Something tells me that Merola ought to try to stay out of court if he can avoid it. The copyright office already beat them down mercilessly when they tried to trademark "Resource Based Economy," which was the intellectual property equivalent of Quixote tilting at windmills to begin with. Besides, isn't Merola's stellar legal team burning up billable hours on that restraining order against Plautus Satire? They've got their hands full for the moment.

Their retainer must be huge!