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Agent MattPosted: Apr 13, 2010 - 10:10
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Prosecutors allege that a dizzying array of drugs, weapons and even a collection of speeches by Adolf Hitler were found at the homes of several of the alleged members of the Hutaree Christian militia.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/feds_weapons_crack_steroids_hitler_book_found_at_h.php?ref=fbfp

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DianePosted: Apr 13, 2010 - 12:48
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The remainder of the story is a little less "dizzying" than the first paragraph. "Suspected crack cocaine and steroids" were found at the home of one member. One other member "had a copy of Hitler's My New Order." So it may be an exaggeration to suggest that the Hutaree, as a whole, were "smokin' crack and lovin' Hitler."

What is clear, from the group's own website, is that the Hutaree desired a "Colonial Christian Republic" and believed that they were "Preparing for the end time battles to keep the testimony of Jesus Christ alive" and that microchips are the mark of the Beast. Also, their Information sources and Miscellaneous links pages include various militia sites, grand conspiracy ideology sites, and miscellaneous right wing sites.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 13, 2010 - 12:59
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Why must you always destroy the funny?

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DianePosted: Apr 16, 2010 - 14:18
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Why the implied claim that I "always destroy the funny?" I have NOT made a point of responding to every joke around here with some party-pooper comment.

Your opening post in this thread did not appear to be a joke. It was a quote from what appeared to be a page of seriously-intended news summary. I pointed out that the opening paragraph of the page you quoted -- and your title derived from same -- seemed to be an exaggeration, given the evidence presented later on the page. What is wrong with my doing that?

A while ago, in another thread, you jumped on me for exaggerating based on what you said was an unscientific poll. I responded by asking you for more details and, when you supplied them, I acknowledged that you might be correct and that more study was needed.

Why is it okay for you to point out when I am or might be exaggerating, but not okay for me to point out when you are or might be exaggerating?

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 16, 2010 - 17:37
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The following post does not reflect the views of Edward, the other posters here or Conspiracy Science in general. It is my opinion and mine alone.

I don't like you, and I'm going to tell you why.

There generally seem to be two types of skeptics.

1) Skeptics that are interested in conspiracies, the paranormal, medical quakery, psuedo-science, etc.
2) Skeptics that are interested in humanism and atheism.

I fall under the first category, and I find those in the second category to be insufferably tedious and annoying. They are the black holes of fun, capable of sucking out any enjoyment from a discussion to carry on their own personal beef with theism.

You come across as having a beef with theism. That seems to about the extent of your interest in this subject matter and it is an aspect of it that I am not only completely uninterested in but also find counter productive.

So, how about if you ignore me and I ignore you and we leave it at that. Because I don't want to butt heads with you and I kinda think it would be inevitable.

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DianePosted: Apr 16, 2010 - 22:03
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Matt wrote:

You come across as having a beef with theism.

I don't. You're totally wrong about this. As I said in an earlier post, I'm not even an atheist. I'm a polytheist, in fact.

I do have many beefs with the religious right wing. But my beefs are not with theism per se, nor even with Christianity per se. (There do exist plenty of nice liberal Christians who march in the annual Gay Pride parade here in NYC. And there are plenty of liberal and middle-of-the-road Christian theologians who don't have a problem with evolution.)

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