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sorry | Posted: Apr 08, 2010 - 09:36 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | Is this guy full of it? "It is of the utmost importance to the powers-that-be that the government run education. It is the most pernicious of the planks of the Communist Manifesto (the 10th plank). | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Apr 08, 2010 - 09:42 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | "Which of the founding fathers would have gone running to the government to get some kind of "benefit"? None of them." Probably most of them, considering they created a government to provide benefits to the populous since the crown obviously was not. But hey, whatever. I can't stand when people abuse history. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Apr 08, 2010 - 09:47 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I know where you're going to go with this Plautus, so I'll cut you off at the pass. By benefit, I mean a representative government. I consider a representative government to be a benefit to the populous. Now, if you want to interpret "benefit" as things like Social Security or Medicare, then I cannot provide a definite answer on what the founders would have wanted since they weren't a unified body of men with identical principles and beliefs in the first place. But I do think that being Enlightenment thinkers, they would be able to understand that applying agrarian fundamentals to an urban society probably isn't going to work very well because we would all starve and flop over dead from things like the flu. | |||||
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sorry | Posted: Apr 08, 2010 - 09:47 |
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Level: 12 CS Original | One area I'm very susceptible in is US History, especially the era of the Founding Fathers. The quote you chose, Matt, more or less went in one ear and out the other. I ought to find some book that will teach me about what the Founding Fathers really wanted for the country. I have the preamble memorized, but I still get confused. On one hand, I can see the Founding Fathers wanted freedom from government subsidies and programs. On the other, they promoted the general welfare for a reason. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Apr 08, 2010 - 09:48 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | "On one hand, I can see the Founding Fathers wanted freedom from government subsidies and programs." The founders existed in an agrarian society. The concept of an urban society did not exist to them. For example, Jefferson honestly believed that the future of this country would be neat little squares of farmland from coast to coast. Obviously, that isn't what happened. | |||||
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Plautus Satire | Posted: Apr 08, 2010 - 10:05 |
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Planks of a manifesto? um...wtf | |||||
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Plautus Satire | Posted: Apr 08, 2010 - 10:07 |
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Level: 0 CS Original |
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Agent Matt | Posted: Apr 08, 2010 - 10:10 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | You're either a nutball or a troll. I honestly don't care which because your arguments still suck regardless. | |||||
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