Skeptic Project

"The RBOSE forums are de facto proof that moderators are a solution looking for a problem. RBOSE has no moderators, and as a consequence there is no harassment, intimidation, bans, exclusions, animosity or hostility."

That's what he posted. Right next to some serious animosity and hostility. The funny thing is he claimed that the RBOSE was proof that this didn't take place and that when they removed moderators all these problems went away yet all they do all day in the IRC chat room which you can review the logs for is endlessly whine about being banned from the Zeitgeist forums and do exactly that. Engage in harassment, animosity and hostility.

By the way, his story about how he told federal agents to fuck off sounds pretty far fetched. He wants to paint for us that supposedly they showed up and he intimidated them into leaving. I really doubt you can explain away your harassment of the President by telling the Secret Service to "get fucked". You can call the local police department in Marion to verify the information I gave you most likely.

You have him pegged on the 911 truth stuff.

http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=985458

And no. I am not VTV.

I wonder why he never mentioned his years of expirience with demolitions in his earlier debates with you. If you look at his profile I linked above he claims to have them.

He is also only still a member of the Zeitgeist movement in his own mind. All of his talk about following the tenets of the movement and claims of being a pacifist kind of fall on their ear when you look at his behavior.

I think ZM/TVP and RBOSE are equally full of shit.

He's so full of shit that it's not even funny anymore.

If I was trying to be funny I'd post a picture of you naked.

You can be anyone you want on the internet, I'm a submarine commander posting from underneath the polar ice caps (not really).

If you're trying to prove you're delusional, mission accomplished.

But if you want to invent a fictional narrative about your background (employment, education, etc.)you need to be at least believable and consistent.

Nothing I've said about myself is fictional, and none of you can offer any evidence to the contrary.

Unlicensed Doctor, tree trimmer, Mayor's assistant, hermit, gardener, the list goes on and on.

As I said, I'm not an "unlicensed" doctor, I a just a doctor. If your head wasn't so far up your ass, you'd see you're pissing in the wind here. I'm also not a "tree trimmer", I'm an arborist, and my services command top dollar when I employ them. I'm also not the "mayor's assistant", I don't assist him at his job, I have my own jobs to do around this town. The mayor basically does nothing except engage in politics, which I find pointless and counter productive. I'm also not a "hermit". I routinely socialize with my friends. I am a gardener, though, so you got one right. One out of five isn't bad, and you're also right that the list goes on and on. I have an enormous skill set and vast experience that dwarfs that of most people, particularly people like you who never leave their mother's basement except to cash your SSI checks and score a thirty pack of Keystone Light.

He's a really fucked up person with severe mental problems.

I'd say the same thing about you. I guess it's up to the ages to decide who is right and who's living in his mother's basement in massive denial.

He believes the WTC towers were blown up by controlled demolition.

The only reason I believe this is because observable reality dictates it must be the case.

He believes the hijackers are still alive.

No, I believe that no fewer than seven men identified by the FBI as "suicide hijackers" are clearly alive, which would mean that they are not "hijackers". I assume, given your fixations and neuroses, that you're talking about the alleged "hijackers" that are believed by millions of fools to be responsible for demolishing the World Trade Center with box cutters. If I'm wrong, then please explain which "hijackers" you mean, because the men I cited as still being alive clearly were NOT hijackers. This is why you fail, you keep inventing straw men that are as easy for me to knock down as for you.

He believes the Jews faked or exaggerated the Holocaust.

I didn't say anything remotely like that. What I did say was that the curators of the Auschwitz museum have revised their numbers of jews killed there from "four million" to "perhaps one million". If you think that's "holocaust denial", take it up with the Auschwitz museum. That's all I've ever said about this issue, the Auschwitz museum is responsible for those claims, I'm just reporting them.

He believes NASA faked the moon landings.

I've also never said anything remotely like that. You are delusional, Muertos. You can set up straw men all day long, like I said, it's just as easy for me to knock them down as it is for you.

My guess is that he probably believes in a lot of other woo stuff as well, and we've only scratched the surface here.

I'm not sure what you mean by "woo" stuff. Is this an asian thing?

And I live in a fantasy world because I have a cartoon avatar. Riiiiiiiiiiiight!

You've got the cart before the horse here a little bit, Muertos. Your cartoon avatar is not the cause, it's the symptom. It's a symptom of your escapism and your tenuous grasp on reality.

I like the fact that he thought Matt had drawn a picture of himself wearing a powdered wig and used it as an avatar.

I didn't say Matt had drawn a picture of himself, I said he had an anachronistic looking line drawing on his profile that makes me think he longs for some imaginary version of the past that was somehow better or greater than the present, pointing to the same sort of escapism we see evidenced by Muertos' cartoon avatar.

"First of all, I don't merely trim trees, I also cut them down, cut them up, basically anything that people would call a professional tree service for."

Lols.

I'm also not an "unlicensed" doctor, I am just a doctor. Where do you get this idea that you need some kind of "license" to be a doctor? The very idea is absurd.

Yeah, you tell 'em Plautus! Us doctors got to stick together.

Yeah, my tenuous grasp on reality...like insisting that the 9/11 hijackers (and you know exactly who I mean by this) died on 9/11. I produced sources that refuted every single one of those 7 who you claim are still alive.

If I'm mistaken in asserting that you believe the NASA moon landings were faked, here's your chance to correct me unequivocally by stating, "I believe 18 Americans walked on the moon between 1969 and 1972 as a result of NASA space missions."

If I'm mistaken in asserting that you're a holocaust denier, here's your chance to correct me unequivocally by stating, "I believe approximately 6,000,000 Jews were deliberately and systematically murdered by Nazi Germany between 1939 and 1945."

If you make these unequivocal statements I will quite happily withdraw my assertions as to what I think you believe.

Codie (Platus whatever) said:

"Also worth noting is my demeanor, I haven't engaged in rampant insulting or belligerence here, because nobody has tried to restrict my access."

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The following added to this forum where he has not been denied access:

"Why don't you show up at my house, I'll put you under my garden."

"Get over it, it's just a chat forum, loser. Why don't you kick the sofa or punch a wall. Better yet, go hang yourself."

"To all you fucking idiots who say or think I'm irrational, I just have the following to say:

I am the most accurate reflection of reality you will ever stumble across. For the most part, as far as I can tell, the vast majority of you are uneducated ignoramuses with a very tenuous grasp on reality. If any of you ever tried to lock me up in any fashion, whether it be behind bars or in a straight jacket, it'd be the last mistake you'd ever make, because I'd end your life, gleefully, and yes, I would put you under my garden. What better fertilizer is there than horse shit.

PS: suck it"

"I'm not crazy. Go hang yourself."

"I'm only a backdoor virgin, I bet you can't say the same, homo."

"Just because you're penniless and unemployable doesn't make you a bad person. There are plenty of other reasons you're a bad person."

Interesting...

I guess this proves that Mr. Vickers doesn't just get set off by being banned. As you haven't banned him and he is still behaving like someone who shouldn't be outside a rubber room.

@Matt I have to agree with you RBOSE, TVP and TMZ are full of shit. Any system is full of shit. I know that I am confused exactly what RBOSE is and what we will be doing and how to go about it. I know we'll probably fail many many many times before we reach something... RBOSE was original a joke that a individual by the name of DNS came up and eventually it became less and less of a joke and more and more of a reality each time we dealt with TMZ ... It totally agree with you and I'm really glad you pointed that fact out. I will say that at least RBOSE is attempting to do something right now, I believe eventually will get something down, what that something know don't ask me I have no clue... I Do not think anybody within RBOSE can tell you either but at least we're making the attempt all be it to most a failed attempt to the outsiders eyes to me it's a step to something.

@Liz I have no clue who you are. never seen you in RBOSE IRC, Wiki, or mumble. Liz I didn't know RBOSE had a forum can you please point them out to me I'd love to see what they are. Why are you taking your time out to look at our IRC logs if you already know what RBOSE is about? Your not very smart are you...

Liz we talk on mumble and most of are stuff goes on mumble or in #C chat which is not logged and we talk developing aspects. For the most part we work on our own then present the projects we are working on during mumble meeting for RBOSE. You would of known that if you were to come to mumble which you Haven't.

Of course most people in RBOSE are pissed off about zeitgeist and vice versa, it doesn't go one ways it goes both ways, and if i cared to check the zeitgeist IRC logs I bet I'd see the same negative shitte going off their as well as well as in teamspeak which I continually hear things that come up all the time about RBOSE. Well i'm banned so I can't go on the zeitgeist stuff but your more than welcome to come hangout in RBOSE IRC and talk to us and get to know us.

www.rbose.org :O

moo

295.90 Schizophrenia - Undifferentiated Type
297.1 Delusional Disorder - Grandiose Type

My medical diagnosis (I too, am a medical doctor) for Plautus Satire: Fucking insane. Annoyingly arrogant, which is made worse by him being wrong about pretty much everything he says.

Sure, "Liz" (VTV), now quote all the times other people have hurled insults at me, and look at how long I went before adopting the common tactic here of insulting and belittling people. You'll also note that, unlike most of the users here, I don't simply insult and belittle people, first I deconstruct their erroneous positions, then I insult and belittle them...just trying to fit in here. ;)

"look at how long I went before adopting the common tactic here of insulting and belittling people."

Your first post was one day ago, and it was just as condescending as the ones you're making now.

The only difference is that you did not yet feel comfortable enough to physically threaten anyone.

I guess this proves that Mr. Vickers doesn't just get set off by being banned.

If by "set off" you mean conforming to apparent social norms, then yes, you're right. I was "set off" here by the steady and continual barrage of ubiquitous insulting behaviour that is clearly evidenced in almost every thread. I'm just trying to fit in. Along the same vein, I attended a church service in this town recently, as an observer, not a participant, to pick up on social cues from the locals.

If you mean getting pissed off when you say "set off", then you're also right. I also get pissed off when I'm repeatedly told I'm crazy. I tolerated it nearly all day yesterday, but I guess my patience wore thin for a moment.

Actually, though, I didn't say I don't get "set off" only by being banned, what I said was I didn't engage in insulting or belligerent behaviour in the Zeitgeist Movement forums unprovoked, and the record shows that. In the Ventrilo server, I was insulted, told to "shut up", told to "go away", etcetera, for several hours. Only when I finally was threatened obliquely did I tell somebody "Here's how you can shut yourself off: stick a knife in your jugular vein." That was the excuse used for the ban, but it was just an excuse, the REASON I was banned was because I suggested to people that they use the open source Mumble solution instead of Ventrilo, because it accorded with the openly stated principles of the movement whereas Ventrilo did not. The admins on the Ventrilo server and the "owner" (more violation of movement principles there) of the server saw that as a challenge to their authority as "gatekeepers" of the movement, so they began a campaign to aggressively seek a global ban. In any case, I haven't been banned from the movement, as you well know, since I routinely use the movement's forums. I'll say it again, VTV, you can ban an ID, you can ban an IP, but you can't ban me.

"Along the same vein, I attended a church service in this town recently, as an observer, not a participant, to pick up on social cues from the locals."

This is the most relevant statement you've made so far, and it gives me quite a bit of insight into your personality.

This will be the last reply you receive from me.