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lylen | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 00:18 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | Russell Glasser, Atheist Experience host takes apart the Venus Project nicely on the Atheist experience blog. | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 00:28 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | Astounding. | |||||
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lylen | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 02:46 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | Wow, I've never experienced on-line sarcasm before. | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 03:33 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | I wasn't being sarcastic? I love it when TAE rips into Zeitshit. | |||||
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Evil Elvis | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 03:41 |
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STFU! Level: 1 CS Original | And how they almost completely disagree with Z1 part 1. Now if atheists see and smell bullshit when Merola speaks of Jesus what does that say about the average Zeitard. Well, let's find out: Compared with all internet users, Thezeitgeistmovement.com appeals more to men; its visitors also tend to consist of low-income, childless people browsing from home. (from Alexa). Wow, so they are not yuppies who have sex every day of the week? I am shocked :-) | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 03:53 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | In IRC one day we were looking at videos of Zeitards blithering about why they supported TZM, and I'll never forget one guy in particular; He was a pizza delivery worker bitching about poverty and how (wherever he works) makes him throw away food instead of it being eaten by someone for free while there are starving kids in third world countries (libtards and Zeitards love the "OMG STARVING KIDS IN AFRICA" shtick.) Yet I doubt you'd ever see this buffoon helping out at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. So anyway, he goes on to lament that he doesn't like being a pizza man, how it's society's fault that he didn't amount to much, and that capitalism is exploiting his labor. This was right before he pretty much said that he favored a worker's revolution under the banner of TZM. This is the caliber of person that Zeitshit attracts - commies, bitter underachievers, and fat elves in trailer parks. | |||||
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Evil Elvis | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 04:00 |
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STFU! Level: 1 CS Original | Good thing they are morons and unable to attract number, if they were more efficient we would be in serious trouble - bitter underachievers are 98% of this planet. | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 04:05 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | To be honest with you, that's precisely what worries me about TZM. It's an easily digestible concept that is attractive to idiots, and that's what makes it dangerous. Ideas like that can snowball with ease. While they don't have much solidarity or foothold right now, there's also the possibility that - that could change in a few years, especially if the actually got off their collective asses and started to DO something. If these people did get some REAL support, go mainstream, or reach critical mass; I do think we'd have a real crisis to deal with. If that ever becomes to case, the NWO is real; and it's name is The Zeitgeist Movement. | |||||
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lylen | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 04:09 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | Sorry, sensed sarcasm for some reason, guess because you guys go over this stuff so much. Atheism is essentially a subcategory of skepticism (though it's possible to be an atheist and not a skeptic vise versa) so not too surprised they can rip apart Zeitgeist but I think he took apart the contradictions of the Venus project in a very layman sort of way. I think the reason they're good at it is they're really used to dealing with dumb shits on their show and have developed a real down to earth way of presenting ideas. The whole TV crew are excellent debaters. | |||||
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Evil Elvis | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 04:12 |
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STFU! Level: 1 CS Original | @ snob goblin - Yeah but what are they going to do? Talk all the rest (meaning people with power/money) into changing their minds? OK, they still have nothing to say except a few empty self proclaimed truths. Right now they are harmless, soon they'll realize they need to be aggressive, then we get to shoot them :-) | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 04:14 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | Well, thank goodness that they are a bunch of incompetent twats with a liars, hucksters, and fat and poor elves for leaders. If they weren't such a joke, I think we'd have something to worry about is all I'm saying. | |||||
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Evil Elvis | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 04:25 |
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STFU! Level: 1 CS Original | Yep. I am actually going to Zeitgeist Day in March, I wanna see how much beer they're going to offer me to join their struggle :-) | |||||
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Wolf Bird | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 08:02 |
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I shoot you dead. Level: 9 CS Original | "He was a pizza delivery worker witching about poverty and how (wherever he works) makes him throw away food instead of it being eaten by someone for free while there are starving kids in third world countries (libtards and Zeitards love the "OMG STARVING KIDS IN AFRICA" shtick.) Yet I doubt you'd ever see this buffoon helping out at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter." I do think it'd be good if restaurants wouldn't throw away uneaten food and instead compost what can be composted. Thus, I have a suggestion for this zeitgeister - have your pizza place compost leftover food for a community garden in the area. If your community doesn't have one, start one. Of course, that will probably never happen, because it takes effort and ambition. Same reason the guy probably wouldn't volunteer at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. "So anyway, he goes on to lament that he doesn't like being a pizza man, how it's society's fault that he didn't amount to much, and that capitalism is exploiting his labor. This was right before he pretty much said that he favored a worker's revolution under the banner of TZM." Man, I love the 'society's fault' line. It's society's fault that I didn't finish school or do well in it, it's society's fault I didn't go to college, it's society's fault I didn't do anything with my life! Dude, the world isn't fair. Get over it. If you work at it, you can get somewhere. Not always, and there will be waves and pitfalls, but whining about won't get you anywhere. You know what? Many of these rich people you probably don't like started with nothing and really went somewhere because they had drive to DO something. | |||||
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anticultist | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 08:07 |
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Brainwashing you for money Level: 15 CS Original | Zeitard responds..."Yeah but rich people and money are evil so I dont even want to be rich or struggle to get there" catch 22, they dont like money or rich people, but are dependant upon them to exist, they dont want to struggle to get anything but are dependent upon everyone else doing so so they can exist, they dont want anything this society offers up yet are dependent upon it to exist. Everything they complain about they dont even want yet are somehow inexplicably dependent upon to survive. | |||||
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Wolf Bird | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 08:16 |
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I shoot you dead. Level: 9 CS Original | "Yeah but rich people and money are evil so I dont even want to be rich or struggle to get there" And we're not conspiracy theorists! | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 08:33 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | You don't put random uneaten food in a compost heap unless you want your compost heap to be full of toxic rot. I can't tell you how many times I've heard this repeated, and it simply isn't true. You can't just throw whatever you want in a compost heap and expect it to be good compost. That's another greenwashed talking point, nothing more. I compost and it isn't nearly as simple as the greenwashers make it out to be. Only specific things can be composted if you plan on using the compost for anything more than a warm and fuzzy feeling. | |||||
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Evil Elvis | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 08:43 |
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STFU! Level: 1 CS Original | True, the meat we eat is packed with crap and processed foods in general don't go into compost. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 08:52 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | It wouldn't matter if the meat fell under all the greenie umbrellas. You still can't put it in a compost heap. | |||||
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Wolf Bird | Posted: Feb 16, 2011 - 09:21 |
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I shoot you dead. Level: 9 CS Original | When I was growing up, we composted just about everything (some exceptions) and it worked pretty well. But...that's anecdotal evidence. So, Matt, how do you make the best compost? | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 18:59 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | Don't mean to necro, but I just noticed that TAE links to Conspiracy Science on their "Jesus Never Existed" link of that blog entry. Pretty cool. EDIT: They also link to Conspiracy Science on their wiki page. http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Zeitgeist | |||||
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duncanlecombre | Posted: Feb 17, 2011 - 22:09 |
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Level: 2 CS Original | I liked this comment to the atheist experience artical...... "My favorite part of ZA was that guy's solution to drunk driving. A pendulum would detect when a driver swerves and keep the car going straight. See!? Technology is easy! Never mind that you would never be able to turn this car should the road curve. . . The rest of the ideas in the movie struck me to be similarly well planned out. I do not plan to bother with the latest installment." I thought that as well when I saw it, I also thought that was a stupid solution because drunk drives don't necessarily swerve when driving, often they think they can drive well when drunk, but their rec action time is slower so they will hit some one else cause they could not break fast enough. | |||||
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Wolf Bird | Posted: Feb 18, 2011 - 07:17 |
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I shoot you dead. Level: 9 CS Original | ^That is a good comment. I wonder if Zeitgeisters every consider that a technology ruled world may have plenty of problems. | |||||
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