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Anyone who calls New York, "jew york" and makes a big deal out of jews being involved with finances, or backtracks and ignores the question "what do you think of the holocaust" by brining up other genocides, and ignoring the main issue. Furthermore, anyone who feels the need to defend their position of angst against jews, or would even give thought to the idea that 4,000 Israelis didn't show up to work on 9/11. I mean really, the statement alone is so stupid it doesn't need research, but it's been disproven, but I'm sure you'll look into it and be convinced.

That's what makes you an antisemite, pointing out other genocides is not a defense, my question was about the holocaust, not about anything else.

As employed in the Vulgate, it corresponds to two Hebrew terms: (1) to holah, literally: "that which goes up", either to the altar to be sacrificed, or to heaven in the sacrificial flame; (2) Kalil, literally: "entire", "perfect", which, as a sacrificial term, is usually a descriptive synonym of holah, and denotes an offering consumed wholly on the altar.

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"How interesting, anyone who says eleven million muslims in the Ukraine were slaughtered is an "antisemite". Or is it anyone who mentions the firebombing of Dresden and all the "Annas" that died, therein? "

These aren't the reasons and you know it.

It's just like when you quoted Edward but conveniently snipped it right at his explanation, and then asked him to provide one.

Anyone who calls New York, "jew york" and makes a big deal out of jews being involved with finances, or backtracks and ignores the question "what do you think of the holocaust" by brining up other genocides, and ignoring the main issue.

I think you're projecting, more than a little bit, too. I didn't ignore any of your questions, I didn't "make a big deal" out of jews being "involved with finances" (in fact you mentioned it, I have not), and what is your "main issue", that you want to be able to call me an "antisemite"?

Furthermore, anyone who feels the need to defend their position of angst against jews, or would even give thought to the idea that 4,000 Israelis didn't show up to work on 9/11.

projecting again, you brought up "4,000 Israelis didn't show up to work", I did not, I've never heard of such a thing. Do you know any jews who died in the World Trade Center demoliton?

I mean really, the statement alone is so stupid it doesn't need research, but it's been disproven, but I'm sure you'll look into it and be convinced.

Huh?

That's what makes you an antisemite, pointing out other genocides is not a defense, my question was about the holocaust, not about anything else.

I still don't think you've made your case. You said "holocaust" and I asked you "which holocaust". Are you thinking of but afraid to say "the jewish holocaust"? Are you afraid if you say the word "jew" that you're going to be called an antisemite? eh-hem

... are you going to say that tobacco doesn't cause cancer as well? Please tell me you are it would make this all so perfect.

Why should I say it, you just said it. Is it true? Does tobacco not cause cancer?

Apparently words created during translations aren't words in that language. So I guess when the chinese translated computer as "electric brain" the words aren't chinese, they're English? Interesting theory on linguistics there.

Do you not know what the phrase "derived from" means? The original derivation was from hebrew to greek, based on a hebrew word, not a greek word. The original derivation is from a hebrew word. Get over it.

>> Do you not know what the phrase "derived from" means? The original derivation was from hebrew to greek, based on a hebrew word, not a greek word. The original derivation is from a hebrew word. Get over it.

Holos and Kaustos are greek words, period. They were used in order to describe something from hebrew. There's no linguistic links between the words, they already existed in Greek. Greek is an indo-european language, Hebrew is an afro-asiatic/semitic language. If the word was taken from hebrew, then it'd just be "olah", but that's not word the word is, it was turned into two words to explain it. Just because it says "derived" doesn't mean it was taken from the language, that's a borrowed word, like "amen" or "hallelujah"

>> I think you're projecting, more than a little bit, too. I didn't ignore any of your questions, I didn't "make a big deal" out of jews being "involved with finances" (in fact you mentioned it, I have not), and what is your "main issue", that you want to be able to call me an "antisemite"?

Jew York, I guess you didn't say that? You did't mention Jews getting more money?

I mentioned one australian jew, Larry Silverstein, getting a huge sum of money out of what amounts to an insurance scam. I suppose I must hate australians, now, since I said "australian".

>> projecting again, you brought up "4,000 Israelis didn't show up to work", I did not, I've never heard of such a thing. Do you know any jews who died in the World Trade Center demoliton?

Somehow I doubt it. I don't know anyone who died on 9/11, but you can find lists of people who did, and some were Jews.

How can you tell somebody is a jew if you have only their name? That seems a little bit like stereotyping to me.

What I mean is, the idea that suddenly 4,000 Israeli citizens who all worked on WTC didn't show up for work, it just sounds ludicrous.

Then why did you say it? I didn't say it, you did, I never heard of such a thing.

>> I still don't think you've made your case. You said "holocaust" and I asked you "which holocaust".

The word "holocaust" alone is almost always synonymous with the Jewish holocaust. I was asking what do you think about that? I'm not asking about any other genocide. I'm not suggesting that the jews or more are less important than any other ethnic/religious/whatever group. I'm simply asking: concerning the holocaust of Jews, by the Germans, what do you think of it?

Well, since you mean specifically the jewish holocaust, what I think of it is that the number of jews killed by nazis is massively overstated. I'm not the only one who thinks that. The Auschwitz museum has revised their numbers of jews killed there from "four million" to "perhaps one million". Are they antisemites, too?

>> Are you afraid if you say the word "jew" that you're going to be called an antisemite? eh-hem

No, I'll can Jew, Heeb, Kike, Sheeny, all day long. I know I can look myself in the mirror and know that I don't believe any goofy ass conspiracy stuff about them, or try to downplay things, or in your case, play up their involvement with business and New York.

I don't believe "goofy ass conspiracy stuff", either. That's why I've rejected the official fables concerning this event.

"How can you tell somebody is a jew if you have only their name? That seems a little bit like stereotyping to me."

Remember how you mentioned you were going to frustrate us so much that we would just give up and kill ourselves? I'm getting close to that point. You're a moron, plain and simple.

I brought up the 4,000 Israeli thing, because I figured you had heard of it, if you haven't, then nevermind.

>> Well, since you mean specifically the jewish holocaust, what I think of it is that the number of jews killed by nazis is massively overstated. I'm not the only one who thinks that. The Auschwitz museum has revised their numbers of jews killed there from "four million" to "perhaps one million". Are they antisemites, too?

The numbers are based on population, not how many people died at the camps -- that's something holocaust revisionists claim. Obviously you read rense.com or some other anti-semitic/holocaust revisionist literature. It's been proven time and time again that it was between 4.7 and 6 million Jews.

Well, since you mean specifically the jewish holocaust, what I think of it is that the number of jews killed by nazis is massively overstated. I'm not the only one who thinks that.

Okay, stop this topic and let me off.

Plautus is a holocaust denier as well as a Truther, and probably also believes the Apollo moon landing is a hoax.

Nutbar-o-meter is going crazy on this one.

>> Well, since you mean specifically the jewish holocaust, what I think of it is that the number of jews killed by nazis is massively overstated. I'm not the only one who thinks that. The Auschwitz museum has revised their numbers of jews killed there from "four million" to "perhaps one million". Are they antisemites, too?

The numbers are based on population, not how many people died at the camps -- that's something holocaust revisionists claim.

I'm afraid you're not understanding here, the Auschwitz museum has revised their numbers from "four million" killed there to "perhaps one million" killed there. It's not some abstract population figure, it's the numbers listed by the curators of the Auschwitz museum. They say the original figure of "four million" killed there was overstated by at least 300%.

Obviously you read rense.com or some other anti-semitic/holocaust revisionist literature.

Apparently you read it. I guess there's nothing wrong with being well-read. Good job.

It's been proven time and time again that it was between 4.7 and 6 million Jews.

Was it proven that four million died at Auschwitz? The museum there says "perhaps one million", now, not the original figure of "four million". What happened to the other three million? Take that three million away from six million and you have three million. Take it away from 4.7 million and you have 1.7 million. And which figure is "proven", 4.7 million or six million? They can't both be right. Where is this proof?

Plautus is a holocaust denier as well as a Truther, and probably also believes the Apollo moon landing is a hoax.

Apparently you think the curators of the Auschwitz museum are "holocaust deniers". All I've done is cite the figures they openly state. Not four million but "perhaps one million". Take it up with them

If you're interested, Plautus, I can introduce you to several personal friends of mine whose close family members perished at Auschwitz and other camps. I'm sure they would be happy to explain to you what happened to them and their families from personal factual experience.

How many Holocaust survivors have you actually met and spoken to?

Once again, it's not based on camp numbers. There we a lot of camps, not just Auschwitz.

>> And which figure is "proven", 4.7 million or six million?

They're estimates, most rest at about 5.5 million, that's the high and low end.

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