Skeptic Project

@Plautus Satire:

You keep posting the same claims by the same guy that provides ZERO evidence for any of it.

You quoted from this website in your last post:
http://www.kolki.com/peace/Home-Run-F.htm</p>

That looks like this on the front page that just exudes credibility.
http://www.kolki.com/</p>

Anyway the point is most of the sources on the page just link to Joe Vialls articles as if that alone is evidence.

Anyway the point is most of the sources on the page just link to Joe Vialls articles as if that alone is evidence.

good point

@Ed,

God, it came from Tom Flocco.

Plautus are you a militia nut? Flocco is militia nut stuff.

When someone links Flocco stuff that sets up red flags with me, because Flocco falls in with the same group that follows Ted Gunderson, Bo Gritz, etc.

Dangerous fringe right wingers.

hehe:

It sees Patypus has a history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Plautus_satire

* On september 6 of 2006 it was decided that the total lack of change or improvement after multiple year long bans was worth an indefinite ban.
* This user was banned by the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee for one year, beginning on March 11, 2004. [1]
* On July 26, 2004, this ban was reset through the use of a sockpuppet, user:Energybone [2]
* In late July, 2005, Plautus again returned, and was again banned by the Wikipedia arbitration committee for a year. [3]
* This ban was reset on August 3, 2005, through the use of a sockpuppet, User:PrincessJO [4]
* Plautus was banned on September 5, 2006, by User:Raul654 for a one-week period for having violated Wikipedia:No personal attacks, and on the following day the ban was made indefinite by User:Phil Sandifer.

Banned from Wiki. Wow. Apparently he had a history of thinking he is an expert in things he isn't.

More here:
http://www.bautforum.com.php5-9.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/archive/index.php/t-9074.html

"To clarify Glom's post...sorry Glom :)...Plautus is a poster over at Apollo hoax, and he is very rude."

Apollo Hoax as in Moon Hoax? This just keeps getting better.

"You want to read Plautus's latest NASA 'fluff' over on the Yahoo group. He provides a link to an audio clip of astronauts talking about witnessing an Earthrise, and then says this is impossible because the moon takes one month to go round the Earth."

I am still lol'ing.

"The Deutsche Bank was slated for demolition because of water and mold damage, not because it was damaged so badly by debris that it was structurally unsound. Like I said, it's just more deadwood being cleared out of downtown New York City to make way for the new transit hub."

- Plautus Satire

I had to reply to this:

So it was just mold and clearing out old buildings, nothing to do with the damage from the WTC collapses, really?

Here's what Wiki says:

The Deutsche Bank Building, which was covered in a large black "shroud" after September 11 to cover the building's damage, is currently being deconstructed because of water, mold, and other severe damage caused by the neighboring towers' collapse

Hmm it says mold but also the "severe damage caused by the neighboring towers' collapse"

It provides a source as well, so lets go there:

http://web.archive.org/web/20080501213934rn_1/wcbstv.com/topstories/World.Trade.Center.2.259238.html</p>

Parts of the trade center's south tower carved a huge gash in the 41-story building's facade when it collapsed on Sept. 11, 2001. Deconstruction of the building, which is known to be contaminated with asbestos, lead, and trade center dust, began in September.

Sounds pretty bad!

But lets google some more and see what else we can find:

http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/subjects/d/deutsche_bank_building_130_liberty_street_nyc/index.html</p>

"The 41-story Deutsche Bank building at 130 Liberty Street, opposite the World Trade Center, was badly damaged when the center's south tower collapsed on Sept. 11, 2001, and was left highly contaminated. It has never been reoccupied.

...the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation bought the structure in 2004, intending to tear it down and replace it with a new tower."

So it had severe damage, it was never reoccupied and the company who bought it intended to tare it down to replace it.

But according to Patypus no other buildings were destroyed on 911 since the WTC buildings collapsed in their own footprint. And its just a coincidence that all these buildings had to be demolished.

And this picture:
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8325/wtc6.png</p>

and..

http://911research.com/wtc/evidence/photos/docs/gz_aerial_wtc6.jpg</p>

Is of a building that is not destroyed of course. Ignore the giant hole, if it has to be torn down later its because of some other wholly unrelated reason.

>> Maybe you could explain why my remarks are "anti-semitism"?

Oh please, you know exactly why they're anti-semitic.

I'm afraid I don't. Maybe you could explain it. Or maybe you couldn't. It appears you've chosen not to, in any case. That speaks volumes.

PS: Judaism is a religion, not a race.

>> Where else but Jew York could the richest australian jew on the planet get even richer by the handfuls. :D

You imply Jews control New York, a classic anti-semitic belief that Jews somehow are involved with anything financial, especially that Jews are somehow always more well off. If it didn't matter that he was Jewish, then why did you bring it up, unless to stress that exact point? So, why stress the point unless you had a problem with it?

>> Judaism is a religion, not a race.

That's probably why I said racism or antisemitism, notice I didn't say just "racism."

Which makes me wonder, what do you think of the holocaust? Do you think 4,000 Israelis didn't show up to work on 9/11? Do you think Zionism is a world wide conspiracy?

>> Where else but Jew York could the richest australian jew on the planet get even richer by the handfuls. :D

You imply Jews control New York, a classic anti-semitic belief that Jews somehow are involved with anything financial, especially that Jews are somehow always more well off.

Which am I implying, that jews control New York or that jews are somehow involved with "anything financial"? Am I implying it or are you inferring it?

If it didn't matter that he was Jewish, then why did you bring it up, unless to stress that exact point?

I suppose I brough tit up for the same reason I mentioned "nineteen muslims with box cutters". It's information that's in the public domain.

So, why stress the point unless you had a problem with it?

Honestly I "have a problem" with any religious delusion. I'm atheist.

>> Judaism is a religion, not a race.

That's probably why I said racism or antisemitism, notice I didn't say just "racism."

So is it "racism" for me to say "nineteen arabs with box cutters" or if I said "Usama bin Laden is an arab name"? eh-hem

Which makes me wonder, what do you think of the holocaust?

Which holocaust? Are you talking about the eleven million muslims killed in the Ukraine by both Germany and Russia? Are you talking about the firebombing of Dresden? Can you be more specific as to which holocaust you're talking about? Incidentally, "holocaust" is derived from a hebrew word which means "wholly burnt offering that is pleasing to god". Are you talking about a literal wholly burnt offering that is pleasing to god? Are you a deluded religionist?

Do you think 4,000 Israelis didn't show up to work on 9/11?

I suppose it's possible. I hadn't heard that. Do you know of any jews that died in the World Trade Center demolition?

Do you think Zionism is a world wide conspiracy?

Zionism, as far as I'm concerned, is about on par with "neocons" or "nazis" or any of a host of other pathological political zealotries.

Ed said:

Wow, how did I miss this retarded piece of nonsense. If you're going to make shit up at least make it relevant and pretend you are an engineer or something.

It's neither retarded, nor nonsense, and I didn't "make it up". I'm a medical doctor. It was relevant only in that I was accused of being a "mere" treecutter, possessing no other skills. That was untrue. I explained to you already I compulsively correct errors. It shouldn't surprise you any more when I do so.

What are you diagnosed with?

I know you haven't made it this long without at least one.

I was diagnosed with asthma as a child, but since I started smoking tobacco, I haven't had so much as a single asthma attack.

"I'm a medical doctor."

Of what?

We have ourselves an antisemite!

How interesting, anyone who says eleven million muslims in the Ukraine were slaughtered is an "antisemite". Or is it anyone who mentions the firebombing of Dresden and all the "Annas" that died, therein?

Scratch a Truther, find a Holocaust denier underneath. Sad but often true.