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sorryPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 11:11
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Matt, what's your political stance? Who did you vote for? What do you think of anarchism?

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 11:15
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Do I know you?

Because if not, why does this thread exist?

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sorryPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 11:28
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For example, it's easier for me to understand why someone opposes Obama if they tell me they are conservative. If they are of a left-wing mindset, I have more questions.

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sorryPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 11:33
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I'm remembering a post by Edward where he hoped to keep politics separate from this site. If that's the case, he may lock this thread.

I have a sincere interest in learning more about Ron Paul. I'm wary of supporting a racist creationist who does not support his arguments with facts. The reason I'm asking you more questions is so that I can better understand where you're coming from. If you outright do not support Ron Paul's view of government, then there's no point in my debating his philosophy with you. However, if you DID support his idea of small government, then that would help me, too.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 11:42
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"I have a sincere interest in learning more about Ron Paul."

http://www.google.com

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anticultistPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 11:43
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http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&source=hp&q=ron+paul+homepage&meta=&aq=0&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=ron+paul+home&gs_rfai=&fp=459b761b84e2996a

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sorryPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 11:47
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From what I've read, he has been quoted as saying he is not racist. Can someone find a quote of his that comes off as racist?

Ultimately, this thread exists because Matt claimed Ron Paul to be racist, and I'm struggling to find evidence that confirms that statement.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 11:50
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"I hate blackies." - Ron Paul

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sorryPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 11:52
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Thanks.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 11:52
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lol

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 13:38
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What I meant was *I* don't want to be involved with discussing politics, if it comes up, I always get dragged into it, because that's probably the one thing I can't stop myself from talking about -- especially, as you claimed aaron, capitalism being a part of the anarchist tradition, I knew that wasn't true and had to say something.

I was raised in an anarchist family, around anarchists, and until high school I never met a single one that was capitalist. It wasn't until I about 2000 that i saw more young, white, middle class individuals jumping on the anarcho-capitalist bandwagon. What I really don't like is how many of them, such as yourself, don't know or don't want to know the real traditions of anarchism, instead it's just pure capitalism and it's all a utopia. I'm not accusing you of anything, by the way, what I'm saying is I think you didn't realize (because you won't read this in Rothbard) that most anarchists don't think like you.

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sorryPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 13:46
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Edward L WinstonPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 14:07
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oh, yeah, I did miss it, thanks.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 14:09
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"What do you think of anarchism?"

Every person I have met who refers to themselves as an anarchist is an insufferably self important fanatic.

If you're over the age of 18 and you still refer to yourself as anarchist, you're stupid. I don't care what the word means in a historical context because a historical context is not relevant when referring to yourself as an anarchist today. If you run around calling yourself an anarchist, you know damn well that people aren't making some mental connection to the romantic days of Italian anarchism or whatever. They're making a connection to idiots and zealots, and somehow that's their fault because you want to use a certain word to define yourself regardless of the implications of doing so.

That's my opinion on anarchism.

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sorryPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 14:20
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Thank you for your response.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 14:24
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I wonder if Matt's an anarchist.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 14:25
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No, I'm a SubGenius.

I mock and take from all equally.

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MuertosPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 14:30
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There really is still a viable anarchist movement around today?

I thought it died out with Emma Goldman and Leon Czolgosz.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 14:32
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@Muertos,

No, it really declined in the 1980s, most either became liberals in order to FIGHT REAGAN or put their heads up their asses and became libertarians. By 1990 people in my family were almost all the anarchists I knew left.

The last big anarchist year was 1981, I think, when you had a few actual co-ops and employee owned businesses.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 14:33
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"There really is still a viable anarchist movement around today?"

Nah, only people who call themselves anarchists online and then act shocked when other people say such a label is stupid.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 14:34
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That's true matt, but also you're forgetting people that are so old they still think it's 1960s and prior. Noam Chomsky and my parents to name a few.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 06, 2010 - 14:36
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"That's true matt, but also you're forgetting people that are so old they still think it's 1960s and prior. Noam Chomsky and my parents to name a few."

They don't post where I can insult them though.

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cranberrysaucePosted: Apr 07, 2010 - 11:24
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YES WE CAN

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 07, 2010 - 11:26
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"YES WE CAN"

Get elected?

Yeah, we can.

Too bad Libertardians can't.

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cranberrysaucePosted: Apr 07, 2010 - 11:38
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Yeah, I wish more poeple would adhere to the idea of letting losers DIE.

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Plautus SatirePosted: Apr 07, 2010 - 16:14
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Anarchy just means no rulers. I don't need a ruler, I don't want a ruler, therefore I'm an anarchist.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Apr 07, 2010 - 16:20
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Cuz Baby... I'm an Anarchist, you're a spineless liberal. We marched together for the 8 hour day and held hands in the streets of Seattle, but when it came time to throw bricks through that Starbucks window you left me all alone.

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cranberrysaucePosted: Apr 07, 2010 - 16:26
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I am an antichristUH.

I am an anarchistUH.

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Agent MattPosted: Apr 07, 2010 - 16:27
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i got a patch, i got a pin
obtained political beliefs from the same songs as my friends
i got a five-fingered discount
to the little record store it's easier to get the stuff i want out

and if you want fair compensation for the work that you do, then well greedy, get out
we have amazing names to call you
ever think theres a difference who you're stealing from?
so fine im not punk and you are... (a moron)

we're gonna tear this stupid city down
throw our trash, our trash on the ground
liberate that bottle of malt liquor
oh, i get it, anarchy means that you litter

we're gonna tear this stupid city down
throw our trash, our trash on the ground
liberate that bottle of malt liquor
oh, i get it, anarchy means that you litter

so if you're flying the flag then you are naming the names
well then you're setting back the ones that know how to behave
its a good thing that this replenishes itself because
who would be left to take advantage of your health

we're gonna tear this stupid city down
throw our trash, our trash on the ground
liberate that bottle of malt liquor
oh, i get it, anarchy means that you litter

we're gonna tear this stupid city down
throw our trash, our trash on the ground
liberate that bottle of malt liquor
oh, i get it, anarchy means that you litter

we're gonna drop drop, we're gonna drop, we're gonna drop our trash on you
yeah, we're gonna drop drop, we're gonna drop, we're gonna drop our trash on you

we're gonna tear this stupid city down
throw our trash, our trash on the ground
liberate that bottle of malt liquor
oh, i get it, anarchy means that you litter

we're gonna tear this stupid city down
and we'll whine, whine whine when no bands come to town,
liberate that bottle of malt liquor
oh, i get it, anarchy means that you litter
nice!

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Sil the ShillPosted: Apr 07, 2010 - 16:33
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(Shut) Up the Punx!

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