Skeptic Project

So, my web of trolls on efnet led me to #rathole, where I found a moron advertising the new Zeitgeist Moving Forward video. I'm glad to know everyone else was on my side. Here is the log (I'm jerkstore):

[20:12] <spung_> http://www.zeitgeistmovingforward.com/ make sure you watch this and share
[20:12] <magblah> no
[20:12] <spung_> please?
[20:12] <magblah> i ban anybody using the word zeitgeist
01[20:12] <jerkstore> why would we watch fake conspiracy theories
[20:12] <spung_> it's not conspiracy theories in this one
[20:12] <magblah> its possibly one of the most hoighty toighty words ever
[20:12] <spung_> it is about economics
[20:13] <spoonhead> oh good
01[20:13] <jerkstore> spung_ do you believe in blank slate theory?
[20:13] <spoonhead> crazy people ranting about money
[20:13] <magblah> its like hearing someobody say modus operandi
[20:13] <spoonhead> that's what we need
[20:13] <spung_> and some small changes we can make to utilize our resources better
[20:13] <magblah> it makes you just want to kick them in the face
[20:13] <spung_> blank slate theory?
01[20:13] <jerkstore> zeitgeist is based on it
01[20:13] <jerkstore> it's debunked psychology that deems zeitgeist impossible
01[20:13] <jerkstore> if you're such a fan of zeitgeist you'd know about it
[20:13] <spung_> explain
[20:14] <@corsican> oh god
01[20:14] <jerkstore> so TZM assumes that all behavior is based on environment
[20:14] <@corsican> no more zeitgeist jesus god
[20:14] <@corsican> that movie is a pestilence
[20:14] <spung_> dude, I am just asking people to understand the basis behind how our economy works
01[20:14] <jerkstore> genetics have no role in shaping behavior
[20:14] <@andr00> joke butt
01[20:14] <jerkstore> spung_, link them to an economics course
06[20:14] * Kitti returns
[20:14] <spung_> genetics DON'T shape behavior
[20:14] <@corsican> * spung_ is now known as amped
[20:14] <@andr00> HEllo!
01[20:14] <jerkstore> spung_ uh, are you serious
[20:15] <@corsican> what is the basis behind how our economy works
01[20:15] <jerkstore> what about autism, mental retardation, birth defects
[20:15] <spung_> you don't believe people are a product of their environment?
[20:15] <@corsican> I can't wait
[20:15] <spung_> dude, congenital defects aside
[20:15] <Kitti> :)
01[20:15] <jerkstore> WRONG
[20:15] <@corsican> let me guess
01[20:15] <jerkstore> TZM requires blank slate theory
[20:15] <@corsican> MONEY IS A CONSPIRACY BY WHICH PEOPLE PRINT IT AND MAKE MORE MONEY OFF THE MONEY THUS STARTING AN ENDLESS DOWNWARD SPIRAL SORT OF LIKE PARKER BROS MONOPOLY LOL FART
[20:15] <spung_> they are acknowledging those other causes
[20:15] <spung_> did you even watch this?
[20:16] <calin> it costs more than 1 cent to mint a penyy.
[20:16] <calin> penny*
[20:16] <spung_> but they are saying how involving yourself with your children affects how they live
01[20:16] <jerkstore> psychopaths are not created by environment. How can you rely on a society with no currency or laws and expect people to behave when there are psychopaths that can't be shaped by your environmental modifications?
[20:16] <spung_> the slate isn't completely blank
01[20:16] <jerkstore> for TZM it has to be
[20:16] <spung_> you can't make any model efficient off of extremes
[20:16] <spung_> nah, they aren't even saying that in this
[20:16] <spung_> watch it
01[20:17] <jerkstore> the video is talking about zeitgeist
01[20:17] <jerkstore> which is a society with no laws run by technocrats that force people to behave nicely without currency
[20:17] <spung_> it's a proven fact that imprintable environmental stress can change your DNA
01[20:17] <jerkstore> so?
[20:17] <magblah> fuck this conversation
[20:17] <magblah> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LduDVpjpdA /> [20:17] <magblah> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LduDVpjpdA /> 01[20:17] <jerkstore> that doesn't account for the psychopaths that will ruin a TZM society
[20:17] <magblah> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LduDVpjpdA /> [20:17] <spung_> that there is a duality between environment AND genes
[20:17] <@corsican> stop
[20:17] <@corsican> stop it
[20:17] <spung_> but they don't act exclusively
[20:17] <@corsican> for the love of god
01[20:17] <jerkstore> corsican just ban him
[20:17] <@corsican> no
[20:17] <spung_> ban who, me?
[20:18] <@corsican> spung_'s cool
[20:18] <@corsican> I just hate this topic
[20:18] <calin> corsican: I'd advise at least a short ban for spamming
[20:18] <spung_> well, since you asked, I shall drop it
01[20:18] <jerkstore> the economists in that video are a select few who believe in that crap. they're idiots. merola didn't have normal economists in it because they disagree with him
[20:18] <spung_> I posted the link once and asked
[20:18] <@corsican> I already had to put amped on ignore because he never stopped talking wacky conspiracy theories
[20:18] <@corsican> who spammed?
[20:18] <@andr00> buy gold! bad is good baby, down with government!
[20:18] <magblah> thats the first thing i do when i join #rathole from another client
[20:18] <@corsican> I'm not banning anyone
[20:18] <@corsican> jeez
[20:19] <@lemur> oh crap
[20:19] <calin> corsican: posting the same link three times in a row isn't considered a spamming action?
[20:19] <@lemur> the power just blinked
[20:19] <calin> message spamming as it were
[20:19] <calin> lemur: BLINK BACK!
[20:19] <@lemur> fuckin blizzard
[20:19] <calin> it's goooood talking
[20:19] <@andr00> prepare to be BROWN OUTED
[20:19] <@corsican> magblah: don't paste links 3 times in a row
[20:19] <@corsican> there
[20:19] <calin> lol
[20:19] <@lemur> i hope that im not stuck in a blizard with no power ;-x
[20:19] <@andr00> oh SHIT, you got WARNED!
01[20:19] <jerkstore> ban him for idiocy. anyone who believes in that stuff needs to take economics, political science, history, and critical thinking courses. Trust me, spung_, those economists in that video are fringe wackos. look them up
[20:19] <|snarfy|> MOMMY DADDY STOP IT
01[20:19] <jerkstore> and ask yourself why merola only picked fringe economics
[20:19] <spung_> heh
[20:19] <calin> lemur: Quick! Print some porn!
[20:19] <|snarfy|> .. ahem.
[20:20] <|snarfy|> so how about that local sports team?
[20:21] <magblah> whats happening brother?
Session Close: Tue Feb 01 20:21:19 2011

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