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AlphalifestylePosted: Dec 17, 2009 - 12:14
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb_MkskGOnE

I leave this uncommented. Some proud Anti-NWO resistance fighters "destroying" Al Gore. ;)

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Dec 18, 2009 - 01:09
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion!

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That's like beating up an 8 year old and claiming you're as great as Mohammad Ali.

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advancedatheistPosted: Dec 18, 2009 - 17:21
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I don't understand why the right has gravitated towards global warming denialism. You'd think conservatives & libertarians, with their dominator world view, would want man to have the ability to control Earth's climate through scientific means, instead of just letting it change in haphazard and possibly dangerous ways.

After all, didn't the futuristic civilizations in the science fiction we read as kids often have that sort of power?

Imagine if the right had denied the existence of nuclear physics, even though they could have used it to increase man's mastery over nature. Its rejection of global warming science makes about as much sense.

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caseyPosted: Dec 19, 2009 - 21:54
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I don't understand why the right has gravitated towards global warming denialism.

Perhaps because its all a load of shite.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io-Tb7vTamY&feature=related

Swich out cooling for warming and they have written this all before!

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advancedatheistPosted: Dec 20, 2009 - 12:19
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Casey: Then conservatives need to insist on getting the science correct all the more. A technology to control Earth's climate organically belongs in the right's dominator world view, along with nuclear power and genetic engineering (both of which the leftists tend to oppose). Instead conservatives have thrown away one of the most powerful technologies imaginable and let their opponents use it as a tool to attack their core values.

We need to break out of these false, and irrational, alternatives and try to reason better about what we want science and technology to do for us as a society.

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caseyPosted: Dec 21, 2009 - 18:45
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The science is simple and correct... co2 follows solar activity. The rest is just political and therefore bullshit!

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Dec 21, 2009 - 19:53
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CO2 follows solar activity? That... doesn't make any sense.

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advancedatheistPosted: Dec 21, 2009 - 20:55
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If the right wants to thwart the left-wing global warming obsessives, it has to legitimately criticize the bad or fraudulent science, while co-opting the good science to show that it supports the dominator world view. Again, a global climate control technology has a natural constituency on the right, so why does the right resist the idea? Considering all the other gambles conservative business people have taken with the environment, why stop at scientific climate control?

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caseyPosted: Dec 21, 2009 - 21:28
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Edwards The hotter the sun gets the more co2 is produced!!! Sorry to say it in a too simplistic way.

http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Dec 22, 2009 - 00:24
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Casey, do you have an actual source to back that up?

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caseyPosted: Dec 22, 2009 - 15:08
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Well check out all the links in my original post...........

http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/global-warming-claims-based-on-false-data</p>

like you said you would. Then the previous link, i'll repost it out of a sence of completeness

http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm</p>

then here we go........

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/peter-roff/2009/11/30/global-warming-e-mails-scandal-show-scientists-may-have-cooked-the-facts.html</p>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fCP_nHRjP8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zeGY8zbzc8&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbLK4RZDdzI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNzBRiAyn8o&feature=related

By the way just for the record I LOVE CO2, its the building block of life and its not at all pollution.....C02 IS NOT POLLUTIION!! more would be better.

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Suburban_BlightPosted: Feb 19, 2010 - 18:43
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WeAreChange better step up their game,after all "confronting" him isn't enough and i don't think timothy mcveigh would go for all this talking malarky

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EdPosted: Feb 19, 2010 - 19:40
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"By the way just for the record I LOVE CO2, its the building block of life and its not at all pollution.....C02 IS NOT POLLUTIION!! more would be better. "

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Oh boy, we got ourselves another one.

*rolls eyes*

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MuertosPosted: Feb 19, 2010 - 21:57
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I guess I'm the guy on call to debunk global warming deniers...I'm still cleaning the bloody shreds of Brad270's flesh out of my teeth. I'm about to sit down to dinner and a glass of wine, though, so the destruction of Casey's lunatic theories is going to have to wait for tomorrow.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 19, 2010 - 22:39
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Every single one of their ambush videos really just looks like their "victims" are uncomfortable dealing with such stupidity.

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MuertosPosted: Feb 20, 2010 - 10:45
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Okay, Casey. *snaps boxing gloves together* Let's go.

The science of global warming is sound and well-documented. The IPCC's Third Report is still the best and most comprehensive summary of the science involved, which is based on research going back over 20 years. The IPCC report has not been scientifically refuted since its original introduction in 2001. Here it is:
http://www.grida.no/publications/other/ipcc_tar/?src=/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm

Now, on to your "evidence."

You claim a paper by Dr. Theodor Landscheidt supports the hypothesis that all observed global warming comes from solar activity. Ridiculous. Satellite observations of solar radiation shows it's been pretty constant since 1978:
http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant

If solar radiation has remained constant since then--or even since 1940, as the Max Planck Institute's data shows--why, then, are temperatures rising?

You might also be interested to know that Dr. Landscheidt, who died in 2004, has no credentials. He wasn't a climatologist (at least not a real one). In fact he was a judge, and also an astrologer. His specialty was predicting sunspot cycles which have proven to be wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Landscheidt</p>

Landscheidt's "work" has been aggressively promoted by the Lavoisier Group, a foundation for global warming deniers founded by an Australian mining executive and funded by Exxon-Mobil.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/11/26/1101219743320.html</p>

A retired judge and part-time astrologer was the best guy they could get for this? Weak.

Your next link is to a conservative opinion piece citing the CRU emails as "proof" that global warming is a fraud. They aren't.
http://layscience.net/node/805</p>

Next: YouTube video with jazzy music and pontificating by Australian AGW denier David Evans, basically claiming that global warming stopped in 1998. Um, not exactly.
http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2006/04/warming-stopped-in-1998.php</p>

Full scientific refutation of Evans's other claims here:
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/07/the_australians_war_on_science_16.php</p>

Evans's credentials are also fake. At one time he claimed to be a "rocket scientist." He's not. His Ph.D. is in electrical engineering, and not in any field that has anything to do with climate science or rocket science for that matter.

Your next link is to the sad eye-candy video "The Great Global Warming Swindle," broadcast by Channel 4 in the UK. Even some of the scientists who are interviewed in the movie denounced it, claiming the film had twisted their words. Detailed debunking of that film here:
http://www.desmogblog.com/a-global-warming-swindle-play-by-play</p>

Your next link is to a TV story about Al Gore. The info links on this video are full of Prison Planet, Infowars and 9/11 Truth links. I'm not even going to waste my time watching it.

Next link is a re-post of that. Same garbage.

Next link is a video of a politician railing at Al Gore and accusing him of fraud and conflict of interest. Just empty political screechery. Yawn.

Your final link is just the same, some Republican screeching at Al Gore. I see this video is proudly promoted by a website called "ilovec02.org" (which you, Casey, also eerily echo in your own comments). Standard conservative political poo-throwing at Al Gore.

Why do global warming deniers hate Al Gore so much?

We're done.

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Agent MattPosted: Feb 20, 2010 - 17:55
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"Why do global warming deniers hate Al Gore so much?"

He's rich and cares about something.

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