Skeptic Project

Off topic, but hilarious:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=235&id=180394

BOINC is volunteerism?

@Ed,

I got banned for questioning the movement. Not one of my posts contained profanity nor was I told the reason for my ban. In my opinion I behaved myself extremely well and attacked no one, despite constantly being attacked by posters there. In fact, I was insulted by Apollo the moderator.

Still want to stick to your previous statement about why people get banned?

Because I don't believe it. These kids are a bunch of fascists.

"Can you really not see a difference between my approach and yours?"

You kiss their ass and I don't? You stick to 911 and that's it? I dunno, you tell me. They're your pet project not mine.

My insulting tone, huh? Insulting tone is not why I got banned. I will put my tone up against any regular poster's. Especially mods, and especially that fat fuck VTV. That dude will type out six paragraphs just to say "Fuck you." Gimmie a break, man.

If you took my posts entirely by themselves, then yeah. I guess you could say I had an insulting tone. But from my perspective, my tone matched that of the forum exactly. The level of pretension on that forum is through the roof. I don't agree with you, at all.

I like how you can have an insulting tone if you agree with the movement. Which, as far as I know, you do. Except for 911. So maybe that's why you're still there. You tell me.

That Dononominononono dude you argue with attacks people left and right and posts all sorts of profanity. But he remains because he is obedient and only takes an insulting tone or disagrees with what is allowed to be disagreed with. So do many others.

Point is, as far as I can tell I broke no rules yet I got banned for the reasons you claim don't result in a ban.

So I dunno at this point I guess it really doesn't matter what you say. I'm going to go with the anticultist folks on this one. I just don't believe you.

And actually, no, I did not start this thread with that intent. I actually started it with pretty good humor in mind. I truly did not think anything I posted would result in a ban after reading how people responded to me and reading other threads on the forum. VTV's gross face swooped in and hit me with the banhammer. I wasn't expecting it and actually did my best to behave.

Well it certainly fired up my waning hatred for the movement. I'm totally sending in that IRS form now. If for no other reason than to get revenge on VTV.

I'm not pissed at Ed. I'm pissed at VTV. Its cool though, I'm gonna get mine.

Any stray inflammatory rhetoric was unintentional. Hard to hold my tongue all day and behave myself in a place full of people I hate.

I guess I had to vomit all that out.

Matt,

I'm sorry but frankly if I was an impartial mod I'd agree that you would be been asking for a ban/suspension or something for much of what you were saying.

The fact that you think I'm somehow "kissing their ass" shows that you are way too biased to be reasonable about this. I am clearly posting some of the most damaging critiques of Zeitgeist on there.

Its true Donimusic was getting away with a lot in that thread, but some people do, some don't and someTIMES they do someTIMES they don't. Going by their new terms of service they could easily have found a reason to ban me, since one of the rules is I should not use any disrespectfull language or be disrespectfull. Clearly I do that ALL THE TIME in my descriptions of Peter, Fresco and other truthers on there that I am talking to. I have never even been warned for any of it whatsoever, none of it. There's a guy called paradigm who is a major truther and was much ruder than anything Doni said and was banned - TWICE - for it. A guy I was debating on the 911 thread was also banned for it, then KEPT getting banned when he tried to make sock puppets and calling for MY ban. There's several examples like this.

However you popped up suddenly and was all against the movement straight away and the people in it in a way that looked more or less like a troll would act. Ie. completely unreasonable, mind is made up, just want to argue. I'm afraid to say that that's not going to cut you any slack or give you any benefit of doubt with any moderators and its going to call attention to yourself like an black guy at a Klan meeting.

You cant storm in somewhere and like an disagreeable asshole and then when they get annoyed with you, you say something like ... You see! You're a fascist! You won't let me disagree with you!

If you want to prove that you are banned for "questioning the movement" then I am more than prepared to believe that. I can easily believe them actually doing so, in fact I am SURPRISED I haven't been warned, suspended or banned yet and I can see that eventually some mod or Peter might just find a reason to get rid of me or to start clamping down on anyone "questioning the movement" as you say they do now. CURRENTLY however this does not seem to be the case YET. If you see it happen then let me know, but you getting banned in this case I'm afraid does not prove it at all.

And yes I have actually posted very harsh things about Fresco, no one seemed to have a problem with it. In fact I said EXACTLY the same thing you did about all Fresco seems to have done is create good drawings and nice little models. Only I actually said it in a much worse way. That's because its the WAY you say things, Matt. I can say the same thing in two different ways and you will have a totally different reaction to me. Same with internet forums and people you don't agree with. Sure I get pissed off with truther's there and I am very harsh, but I still do it in a certain way and apparently my approach while still insulting is still said in a way that mods don't care or know they can't do anything about.

I don't care about you sending something to the IRS. If the ZGM has nothing to hide in their accounts then it should be fine, maybe Peter can use his tax protester arguments on them. That would be funny. :)

Lets put it this way:

If I go to an anti-Semite forum to see if they will discuss things logically and honestly debate you or if they will just ban any one that disagrees with them, how do you do that? You go in and attempt proper discussion and if they ban you then you know they will ban anyone for any criticism. If you go in acting all insulting towards them (which of course would be hard not to do if they're anti-semites) and you get banned, how can you be sure it was because of your tone rather than because they didn't like the fact that you disagreed with them?

And why do I try and not have an insulting tone with them? Because some people haven't considered the points I might be making before, some of them haven't heard the facts before and probably more to the point it looks far better owning someone with facts and disproving them with intelligent well thought out critique than a few simple one liners, disdain and dismissals of everything they say. Lurkers also get a lot more out of it.

Did what?

They lock my threads all the time.

Its funny that the conspiracy theorists in the Movement don't like the excuse that the films aren't the movement either :D

"Also, a quick thought on the "Z films" not being a direct representation of the movement. I've got to say that this kind of stance is weak in my opinion. I understand why Peter would take that stance. Most likely to distance the movement from the conspiratorial notions of the films in general. I suppose being connected to conspiracy theories could damage the credibility of what we are trying to achieve. However, those films are what got everybody in the door. It's like going to a nudist colony only to find out that it's "clothing optional". The bottom line here is that people are in this movement because of the information they got from the films. I could not imagine many people are coming here having not seen them (understood is another story). So why are we towing this sketchy "the films aren't the movement" line. It's very doublespeak-esque, and in my opinion a bit of a weak cop-out to avoid difficult lines of questioning."

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=231&id=240877&limit=10&limitstart=40#242727