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advancedatheistPosted: Jan 13, 2011 - 20:58
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Someone has set up a YouTube channel about him now. Apparently FM and Fresco knew each other, and they promoted similar ideas about "the future":

http://www.youtube.com/user/FM2030Videos</p>

Basically FM spent the latter part of his life engaging in something I call transhumanist magical thinking.

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Agent MattPosted: Jan 13, 2011 - 21:13
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"Futurist" seems to mean nothing more than someone who daydreams for money in order to avoid having a job.

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advancedatheistPosted: Jan 13, 2011 - 22:05
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Many "futurists" have to market their wares and get income from multiple sources like corporations; I understand that FM had to live that way, though he might also have had some inherited wealth as a member of Iran's ruling class under the Shah. They stand a little higher in the usefulness hierarchy than the glib talkers who become clients and shills of billionaires.

For example, Eliezer Yudkowsky and Patri Friedman, both of whom have cult followings I don't understand, have gotten money as clients of Peter Thiel. The market has no use for their "skills" otherwise (creating a theory of rationality and building an "ethical AI," in Yudkowsky's case; talking about libertarian seasteads in Friedman's case). I think these guys would probably have to gather carts in Wal-Mart parking lots if they had to find real jobs offered by the market.

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