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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 21:01 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | Conspiracy theorists go on and on about social conditioning via media and what not, I recently read a post about how crime dramas are a way to condition people to accept authority... but it seems like the media caters far more to conspiracy theories and woo (in fiction at least). Conspiracy theorists and woo believers in general don't realize how positively they are portrayed in most cases. They are nearly always correct, and the skeptic is nearly always wrong. In fact, aside from Scooby-Doo I can't think of any other examples where the "skeptics" are right. Anyone know of some more shows or movies that follow this theme? Alternatively, any shows or movies where the skeptics are wrong? I'm sure the latter would far outweigh the former. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 21:17 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Fantasy sells better than reality. Even Reality TV is fantasy. | |||||
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Kepp | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 21:21 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | Scientists are also portrayed very unrealistically. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 21:23 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | "Scientists are also portrayed very unrealistically. " Either dangerous and crazy or stupid and oblivious to obvious events taking place in the show or movie. | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 21:27 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | "oblivious to obvious events taking place in the show or movie." | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 21:28 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | I never really watched the X-Files, but I assume that it would be a great example of skeptics being wrong in every episode? | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 21:32 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | The X-Files is a pretty decent show, except for the last season. If Scully was always right, it would have been boring as shit. | |||||
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Omni-Science | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 21:35 |
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Ordo Ab Chao. Level: 8 CS Original | I think there's some sort of irony in Scooby Doo's skeptics being correct.... | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 21:53 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | It's not a movie or TV show, but "Foucault's Pendulum" by Eco absolutely trashes conspiracy theories and their believers. A medieval document describing a grand, 1000-year plan by secret masters to rule the world and harness the primal energy of creation turns out to be nothing more than a shopping list. I agree, CT's are glorified by movies. National Treasure, Da Vinci Code, X Files, just about every Oliver Stone film, etc. | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 22:10 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | Muertos the only CT movie I think Oliver Stone made was JFK. At least that is the only one I can think of. | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 22:23 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | But movies and TV where the supernatural/conspiracies take place is just social conditioning so that when REAL conspiracies happen, everyone just says "that's just a movie!" It's another form of control.</end conspiracy theorist> PS. Yes, I've actually heard that argument used before. | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Jan 11, 2011 - 22:34 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | Snob Goblin | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Jan 12, 2011 - 00:34 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | Joe: not true. "Nixon" was full of CT's, especially the very egregious part where he conjectures about what's on the 18 1/2 minute gap of the Watergate tapes. (In Stone's version, it's Nixon confessing that a secret intelligence black op may have been involved in the assassination of JFK). "Salvador" was also very CT in a low-key sort of way. "Wall Street" didn't expressly assert CT's but played into the whole "bankers rule the world" stuff. "Scarface" (which Stone wrote but did not direct) hints at CIA involvement in the Cuban drug trade. | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Jan 12, 2011 - 00:50 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | Thank you for setting me streaght on that Muertos. I forgot about "Nixon"; he did put in a little bit of the assassination of JFK conspericy in it did he. While we are on the subject of Oliver Stone; you heard that he is going to teach us domb Historians (sarcasim) about what really happened in histroy. http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jan/10/hitler-stalin-oliver-stone-history | |||||
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Vasper85 | Posted: Jan 12, 2011 - 10:07 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | Scully was hot...mmm Scully. | |||||
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scitops | Posted: Jan 12, 2011 - 16:42 |
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Level: 4 CS Original | I never found Wall Street to be CT, more a commentary that the that the workers really build this country should be respected rather than greedy Wall Street hedge fund managers. | |||||
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