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AKBastard | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 16:37 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | I know we've all got our different reasons, and we despise this stuff and the people who concoct and spread this woo all over the place for various reasons as well. But what is it for you personally that makes you want to join a forum and speak out so vehemently against this garbage any chance that you get? For me, I just hate the arrogance. Someone telling ME who went to school and actually took the time to learn how real world works that I'm "deluded" or "asleep." It also makes me physically hurt to see people believe things for which they don't have ANY reason to (I make some small exception for religious beliefs, but that's not what this thread is about.) What is it for you personally? | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 16:41 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | They think that they have discovered some secret hidden knowledge that only they have the ability to Google. | |||||
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Sil the Shill | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 16:51 |
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Level: 9 CS Original | So much. I couldn't even begin to narrow it down. | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 17:00 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | Well, give me your biggest reason? | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 17:03 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | They were born. | |||||
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Kepp | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 17:08 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | Because I have a chip on my shoulder for being tricked into believing that bullshit. | |||||
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domokato | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 17:49 |
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Level: 4 CS Original | I mostly just don't like seeing people waste their time on BS, and getting others to waste their time on it too. All just because they don't know how to think critically. I was into woo and conspiracy theories before, but I'm not bitter about it. It led me to strengthen my critical thinking skills, so for that I am grateful. And I think most purveyors of woo really believe in it, so I can't be mad at them for it. But those unscrupulous few who making a living off it clearly knowing it's BS - they can go to hell (so to speak =P). | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 19:15 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | Because when you get over conspiracy theories you realize how much of a idiot you were. Then you come to the fact that you will never be able to get those 2 years back. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 19:28 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | "But those unscrupulous few who making a living off it clearly knowing it's BS" http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5503/glennbeckf.jpg" /> | |||||
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Ed | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 19:51 |
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Level: 10 CS Original | What I hate most is that they are so sure they are being scientific and rational and yet they refuse to see they are the exact opposite. At least with Creationists you can get them to admit their beliefs are based on irrationality (faith) | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 20:54 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | I hate the secret knowledge conceit probably most of all. Honorable mentions: the "wake up sheeple" attitude, and the total ignorance of what makes something a creditable source or convincing argument. | |||||
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Kepp | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 20:56 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | Their arrogance when they claim they are the only ones capable of critical thinking. | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 21:49 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | I also hate the fact that someone can come along with no real ideas about the true nature of economics, history, or law - write some stupid book or stupid internet article and tons of people think it's some kind of masterpiece (ie Zeitgeist.) | |||||
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The Burger King | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 23:35 |
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I can't stop posting pictures of poop, what the fuck is wrong with me? Level: 5 CS Original | Don't you "get it" Dr. Peter Joseph Merola is a HERO, along with Jacque Fresco and Roxanne Meadows! | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Dec 22, 2010 - 23:48 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | Yep, that's true. The reason the TZM isn't getting anywhere is because of mentally ill simpletons like us who mock them because we're all just sheeple who don't understand jack shit. It all makes sense now. | |||||
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duncanlecombre | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 01:17 |
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Level: 2 CS Original | "Because when you get over conspiracy theories you realize how much of a idiot you were. Then you come to the fact that you will never be able to get those 2 years back." I think this is the reason its so hard for many to break away from those beliefs, you said you wasted 2 years, well what about 10, 20 or 30. In fact I think the longer you go believing it the more paranoid you get, look at William cooper at the end of his life. My biggest beef is with CT's is I would hate to see people manipulated into another Nazi state. I know its a worse case scenario but imagine if things got really bad and some politician decided to use the Freemasons as a scape goat, eventually sending them to gas chambers and such just like Hitler and the Jews. The public in my opinion is pretty stupid sometimes and under the correct conditions I fear CT's could cause another scenario like this. The other thing I don't like is CT often play at religious beliefs, I hate to use the word irrational but when you custom fit a CT to conform to a person's "irrational" religious beliefs people within that belief system tend to not notice the lack of real evidence supporting the theory because it fits with a religious prophecy. I have to give Zeitgeist some credit for taking popular CTs which one way or another based themselves in some sort of religious belief and tailored them to an atheistic point of view. My Atheist friend always thought religions were a scam, and when he saw Zeitgeist he thought he found his proof. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 07:22 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | TZM is a religion. | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 09:53 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | "I know its a worse case scenario but imagine if things got really bad and some politician decided to use the Freemasons as a scape goat, eventually sending them to gas chambers and such just like Hitler and the Jews." | |||||
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AKBastard | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 11:15 |
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Level: 5 CS Original | Don't forget the Church of David Icke. | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 11:24 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original |
I actually wrote a background/outline for a science fiction story I was planning, set in America of the future after a right-wing regime pushing CTs has taken over the country. In the background story, a politician modeled loosely on Rand Paul uses CT ideology to break the two-party system and becomes president and eventually dictator. Along the way he's helped by an Alex Jones type who gets the whole country believing in the Illuminati and the New World Order. The story itself would have taken place years later, where a young historian discovers evidence in a long-buried archive that 9/11 was actually done by Al Qaeda. Eventually he's persecuted for his non-CT beliefs that threaten the state. I never actually got around to writing the story... | |||||
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Kaiser Falkner | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 11:47 |
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HAIL HYDRA Level: 6 CS Original | did the dictator stage a massive depopulation false flag so he could say "see I told you" and then take power? | |||||
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Muertos | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 12:36 |
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Paid Disinformation Blogger Level: 14 CS Original | No, but in the back story there was a nuclear terrorist attack on the Superbowl and the CT politicians successfully blamed it on the Illuminati and the two-party political system. | |||||
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Joe | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 17:59 |
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Level: 8 CS Original | Muertos; go for it. I got a good title for it: Idiotopia. | |||||
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Genogza | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 19:16 |
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Life's Too Short Level: 1 CS Original | I don't see CT's as most of you do, call me apathetic. I don't have much animosity at all. To me, they are just more or less paranoid cooks with wild imaginations and mostly harmless. My interest in CT's has always been in their stories and twisted logic. To me, I find it pure entertainment. Which is why I came to this site, because I think the debunking of the CT's, and the CT's themselves make up for fascinating stories. Especially when you're a writer, it's incredible to delve into so many minds and see how people think on certain levels and on different subjects/situations/ideology. To me, CT's and Skeptics going back and forth is like Porn for a writer such as myself. And reading some of Muertos's blogs as well as his posts, it's been a real treat. Though I don't share his animosity for CT's, I love his passion for what he does, and as a fellow writer it's great stuff. )))))))My biggest beef is with CT's is I would hate to see people manipulated into another Nazi state. I know its a worse case scenario but imagine if things got really bad and some politician decided to use the Freemasons as a scape goat, eventually sending them to gas chambers and such just like Hitler and the Jews. The public in my opinion is pretty stupid sometimes and under the correct conditions I fear CT's could cause another scenario like this.(((((( On to this. I hope most of this was sarcastic, in terms of fear of something like this actually happening. Conspiracy theorists in America, and ideologues alike cut in the mold of the Alex Jones' and so on would fall under Anarchism, not Statism. Worst case scenario, it would still be catastrophic, but not comparable to the Nazi's. It would be more of a deteriorated wasteland without rules, as oppose to something imperial. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 19:32 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | That's because your political and economic views are just as irrational and stupid as theirs are. | |||||
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Genogza | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 20:59 |
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Life's Too Short Level: 1 CS Original | I've never stated my full political or economic views, just very few. You should try being more creative when making assumptions. Tell us how you really feel. | |||||
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Omni-Science | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 21:02 |
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Ordo Ab Chao. Level: 8 CS Original | Matt is just butthurt that you're here. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 21:04 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | I don't need to be creative with a silly ass anarchist. Shut the fuck up Omni. | |||||
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Omni-Science | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 21:05 |
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Ordo Ab Chao. Level: 8 CS Original | NO U I will shut up when I damn well please. | |||||
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Agent Matt | Posted: Dec 23, 2010 - 21:06 |
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Genuine American Monster Level: 70 CS Original | Go cry about your dad, spoiled twerp. | |||||
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