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Agent MattPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 12:18
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This thread is for discussing DOOMERS.

So, discuss.

Don't know what a doomer is? Click here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomer

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 12:22
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LOL! The difference between doomers and peakists...

Perhaps I'm a peakist, but I'm certainly NOT a doomer.

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Agent MattPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 12:32
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Why do you consider yourself a peakist?

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 12:37
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I think it'll become a lot harder to continue our current lifestyle (which uses petroleum products for almost everything) once easy to reach oil becomes scarce.

There'll still be oil, but it'll be in forms that are harder, more costly energy and money-wise, and more polluting to refine and use.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that it'd be awesome if we went very green before or soon after "peak" oil is reached.

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Agent MattPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 12:51
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Necessity is the mother of invention, which is why I don't pay much attention to peakists or doomers.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 12:55
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"very green before or soon after 'peak' oil is reached"

I agree.

But you'll be old by then, and I'll be your age, I think, so it's easy for you to have that mindset. :P

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Agent MattPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 12:57
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I'm already old!

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 12:58
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30-something is not old, Matt.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 13:22
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30 something is the 18 which is the new 4.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 13:23
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So I'm like 3 1/2?

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Agent MattPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 13:31
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"30-something is not old, Matt."

Say that to my metabolism.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 14:01
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Alright Fatty.

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Agent MattPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 15:14
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I think not.

It just takes more work to keep from being one.

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advancedatheistPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 17:21
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I heard Matt Ridley on a podcast compare doomers to people who say we should buy the current model of the iPad now, because if we wait, all future versions of the gadget will perform worse than the current version.

In other words, if we accept that our economy provides incentives for people to make things better, then does doom necessarily have to happen?

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Agent MattPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 17:45
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Matt Ridley is awesome.

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advancedatheistPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 17:50
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Ridley on Trade, Growth, and the Rational Optimist

http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2010/10/ridley_on_trade.html

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Agent MattPosted: Dec 15, 2010 - 18:07
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I've been listening to his audiobook Nature Via Nurture. It is good.

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Senor DingdongPosted: Dec 16, 2010 - 08:35
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I suggest we adopt the terms peaktard & doomtard from now on heh.

We have to trust our ingenuity as a species, we already have alternatives to oil so I'm thinking we won't have a problem slowly transitioning into a 'green' society.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Dec 16, 2010 - 11:46
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This topic is not going to become our largest topic, therefore without this topic this entire forum will cease to exist!

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