Skeptic Project

Your deal should be much better.

If you have a mortgage with at least a 5.5% interest rate you are paying double for your house when you don't have to. The number one expense in your life is probably interest which you shouldn't have to be paying at all. You are losing out on a $50k after-tax yearly dividend that the government is wasting on useless bureaucracy. And you do not have access to the kind of information that a truly transparent society should provide so that you can make better decisions as you go about your daily life.

LOL!

Dude, what are your beliefs? Seriously?

If I was misinterpreted, I do not think private information should be made public. I think public info should be public: government actions, reports, correspondence, contracts, licenses, income, expenses, etc. and all business income, expenses, contracts, salaries, deals, etc. (except trade secrets).

//I'm getting a great deal out of our current system. My life is reasonably comfortable and I have a job I enjoy. What are you talking about? //

Bingo!

I have achieved all my basic goals in life. Made it out of the ghetto, acquired a job that I love ,own my own home in a wonderful neighborhood, and have a great family, armed with nothing but a GED. Same story with my fiancee(of 18 years lol).

This is just more utopian nonsense, nobody wants to work, but everyone wants a comfortable life. Nothing is stopping you from becoming part of "the elite". Think bankers are too rich? Become one.

The world is the way it is because that's way it has evolved, it will get better in time, but it won't be because of these utopian type ideas.

The monetary system spawned this doublepost.

@Kepp

I have achieved all my basic goals in life.

Your anecdotal story of success is not proof the world is perfect the way it is. And your philosophy that well things work for me so screw everyone else is not one everyone subscribes to.

nobody wants to work, but everyone wants a comfortable life

People have a natural desire to work that needs to be fulfilled. It is no different than our need for air, water and food. Otherwise we would not have survived as a species.

But if you read the info at the site, it delineates 2 kinds of work we do: Jobs and Productive Leisure Activities. People should spend all their work time doing productive leisure activities and machines should do all the jobs because people have no interest in doing jobs and it is a poor use of what makes humans productive.

Nothing is stopping you from becoming part of "the elite".

Unlike you, I do not have a GED, I graduated high school, went on to a top university and now make more in week than you probably do in a year. And unlike you I recognize that a lot of what I accomplished is based on luck and not everyone who follows my same path will achieve the same results.

Some of these concepts are hard to grasp for someone with just a GED.

Your tony robbins plan of just "DO IT" "DO IT" "DO IT" is not a sound recipe for a society that works for everyone.

Think bankers are too rich? Become one.

There is nothing wrong with being rich. There is something terribly wrong with our ancient banking system. Commercial banking wastes trillions every year on an activity that is not productive and provides no value. It needs to change. It only exists because we have laws that allow it to operate the way it does.

it will get better in time, but it won't be because of these utopian type ideas.

You are confused on where progress comes from. They don't come from people like you, they come from people with utopian ideas.

Unlike you, I do not have a GED, I graduated high school, went on to a top university and now make more in week than you probably do in a year. And unlike you I recognize that a lot of what I accomplished is based on luck and not everyone who follows my same path will achieve the same results.

Can we stop making comments like this, please? This is really disappointing and in no way productive. Also, the whole "humans have an innate desire to work" axiom is not really totally on cue. That comes from a very specific paradigm of though regarding what labor is.

@Kaiser Falkner

Can we stop making comments like this, please? This is really disappointing and in no way productive.

Have you read through this site? Comments like that is what adds to the charm of what this website is.

What would Matt do here if King Falkner banned really disappointing comments?

Also, the whole "humans have an innate desire to work" axiom is not really totally on cue.

If it wasn't, we would have never made it out of the trees.

"How old are you?"

I would say about 2/3rds the age of the guy in your pic.

@Kaiser Falkner
"And how much will the limiting of purchasing in turn affect the total economies output?"

In a monetary system, because of say's law, the economy will only produce what people spend. If people want to consume less, the economy will produce less.

In an economy without a basic income, that can create a problem because it would increase the unemployment rate which would force people who do not have a job to spend less even though they do not want to.

If you have a basic income, the business cycle no longer is the problem it is now. People will always have an income to spend regardless of the state of the economy's business cycle.

As another post shows, you are guessing wrong.

Nobody asked for your therapy

I am very proud. I just don't let that get in the way of recognizing the problems that exist.

We weren't talking about what other people thought about my solution, we were talking about your incorrect assessment that I lacked pride in my accomplishments.

GEI, that wasn't the point I was making. What I am saying is that if you segment off a part of economic production for a basic income plan you run the gambit of the whole from which the segment was cut to decrease in side to the point that there is no flexibility with which to operate. But this thread is clearly over.