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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 02, 2010 - 23:25
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As a high school student planning to attend a good college and grad school, I have to ask.

How hard is it to write those research papers and dissertations?

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Dec 03, 2010 - 01:02
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Depends on your college, I imagine if you're going to ITT tech you can wipe shit on a paper and you'll be praised.

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MuertosPosted: Dec 03, 2010 - 01:18
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It depends on the amount of work you put into it.

If you work hard, research well, pay attention to instructions, stay focused, think about the assignment, and develop the material, you'll do well.

If you half-ass it, cut corners, get bored or blow it off, you'll flunk.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Dec 03, 2010 - 11:03
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I'm working on my BA thesis at a fairly difficult college, and it is a time consuming endeavor. I started doing research back in June and have been going since. Muertos is right, you need to stay focus and be VERY careful with your sources and citations. If you take good, organized notes and distinguish between your words and the author of your source's notes, you'll be fine. You'll have moments of despair when all your work seems to fall apart, and you'll also have exciting moments when things suddenly really fall into place for you. All in all, I've loved writing this thesis, and it really has taught me a great deal about what real research is.

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KeppPosted: Dec 03, 2010 - 11:20
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I envy you guys who went to college. I so wish I could redo life and become an astronomer or something. I had a full scholarship but I dropped out of school in the 12th grade and instead have a GED.

Even though I've done really well in life, I feel like I've cheated myself. Don't fuck it up Omni, stay focused.

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Agent MattPosted: Dec 03, 2010 - 11:37
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START SMOKING POT OMNI IT WILL HELP YOUR STUDIES AND MOTIVATION

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KeppPosted: Dec 03, 2010 - 12:04
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LOL !!

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MuertosPosted: Dec 03, 2010 - 12:34
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Omni, you should drop out of school immediately. It's nothing more than a band-aid on a knife wound. Join the Zeitgeist Movement and save the world!

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EdPosted: Dec 03, 2010 - 12:39
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Look how much Jacque Fresco has accomplished without a degree. School is for indoctrination and brainwashing. You should follow in Fresco's footsteps, we need more forward thinking people in this society. Also stop drinking tap water and buy a filter to get rid of flouride it turns you into a zombie.

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maykPosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 00:04
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Omni - Two peices of advice come to mind:
1) Make sure the question(s) addressed by the paper are clearly identified
2) Be clear and concise. There's nothing worse than a rambling paper, IMO. I had a class where we were required to read a recent research paper, and write a summary, discussion and critical review in 1 page single spaced. It was an great exercise.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 12:52
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Here's another dumb question.

Can anyone give an insightful view as to what I need for my resume to have a fighting chance if sent to Ivy League?

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MuertosPosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 13:10
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What are your grades and SAT's like?

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Sil the ShillPosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 13:43
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"Here's another dumb question.

Can anyone give an insightful view as to what I need for my resume to have a fighting chance if sent to Ivy League? "

Aside from exemplary grades and test scores, it probably wouldn't hurt to have a lot of community service under your belt and to be apart of a few extra-curricular activities. I have a friend who goes to Cornell, and that seemed to work for him.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 14:30
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A's and B's for freshman year, A's currently (I'm a sophomore).

I've taken the SAT's multiple times, but I can't remember the scores. (D:)

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MuertosPosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 14:48
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Sil's suggestion on community service is a good one. Maybe organize a Key Club or something at your school. Brainy stuff like debate team, mock trial, etc. is also really good on a resume.

Work as hard as you possibly can. If you're making A's consistently with 2 more years to go, you have plenty of time to rack up more of them.

Also, and I can't emphasize this enough, take AP classes and AP tests. They've got them for everything under the sun these days, and they're hard work, but totally worth it. Going into college with a big roster of AP credits is an excellent way to demonstrate you're a superior student. If you do, you'll probably be able to translate AP tests into actual credit at the college level.

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KeppPosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 15:01
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Community service is for liberal elites!

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The Real RoxettePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 15:13
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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^ I saw a picture of Paris Hilton painting over graffiti in high heals, the above statement has to be true.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 17:30
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Muertos is right, you should stick to AP (or IB) classes as much as possible. But what I found most important for getting in to a difficult school was the utmost honesty about your academic drive. When admissions look at your application, they will use your SATs (ACTs) and grades as a way to sift through the garbage applications. But when it comes down to it, your essays are the most important aspect of your application. And in it, you need to really outline who you are becoming as a thinker. Find teachers who are going to really see your potential not just as an applicant, but as a scholar or researcher. This is hard to fully capture in high school, certainly, but good teachers will recognize your potential by the time you are a junior. I'm also going to have to employ my bias and bash the Ivy league a little. I applied to two schools in the Ivy league and visited Harvard and just didnt like it. A lot of undergrads there, in my opinion, were driven by the promise of career and not by the quality of their inquiry. Do look at Uchicago (Not UIC) and consider it. Its remarkably difficult, but the experience has been so rewarding.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 21:24
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An even DUMBER question.

I have no fucking idea what to major in for undergrad.

I mean, there are obvious choices, and then not so obvious choices, and then I have to keep in mind that keeping straight A's is paramount, no matter what major.

So, as a future med school student, do any of you have some ideas what would be a good idea to major in?

For the sake of simplicity, assume I'm attending UF.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 21:34
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You wont have to pick a major until you get to school man. You wont know what you love for quite some time here. When I was a sophomore I thought I was into psychology. That really didn't pan out.

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The Real RoxettePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 21:34
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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Surely garbage man or janitor is a great opportunity for an internship, well maybe in Berkeley.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 21:40
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@ Kaiser

What did end up panning out for you, then? (curious to know)

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 21:42
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Anthropology/international studies. Trying to get into PhD programs in Anthro and History.

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Energy TurtlePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 21:42
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My advice to you concerning your undergraduate major would be this: Don't worry about it right now.

I began as a poly-sci & pre-law (at the University of Kansas) then Geography, then Japanese, then English, and finally graduated with Bachelors in both English and Psychology.

After that I joined the Navy, got kicked out, lived in England, and evetually got my Master's in Counseling (UC Davis).

As for the research papers, they're not that difficult. Learn how to properly cite sources (some departments use different methods such as MLA or Chicago Style), learn them well. Nothing pisses professors off more than incorrect citations, format, and grammar/spelling errors.

Also, it doesn't hurt to be friendly with your teachers and more importantly the head of your department.

So, my advice would be work hard and get good grades and the rest will work itself out.

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The Real RoxettePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 21:43
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There ARE more sluts in public schools. Shut up and let me explain.

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I'm sure your guidance councilors are telling you that you need your entire life planned out tomorrow, but they're full of shit, you've got plenty of time. After all, s/he's a guidance councilor, how smart can s/he possibly be? You may even switch majors when you're in college.

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Energy TurtlePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 21:49
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I just realized something you might be over looking. But Roxette is right, you really can't and shouldn't try planning too much of your life out right now.

As for the important stuff. The summer before your senior year I would spend a lot of time researching scholarships, grants, etc. I don't know your financial situation but being 23 years old and 20k in debt is not cool. There is a ton of money floating around in the form of tuition help. Apply for all of it.

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 21:54
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Also summer before college, live a little.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 21:56
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@ryanmick05

:/ That's the one thing I haven't really gotten my act together for, scholarship funds/money.

Precisely because most of it can wait until junior or senior year.

@ Kaiser

lolwut? You're talking to a video game nerd here. :3

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Kaiser FalknerPosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 22:01
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Doesn't matter man. I was a pretty reclusive guy all my life but the year before I left for college I just did what I wanted when I wanted. It definitely helped prepare me for the bigger challenges that will face you in college beyond the classroom.

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Omni-SciencePosted: Dec 04, 2010 - 22:03
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@ Kaiser

And what are some of those non-academic challenges that college students face?

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