Skeptic Project

And not seem like a dick. Oh and he's wasting his life chasing a ghost.

Not worth it trust me. I have had zero success and only caused myself unneeded stress.

This was my recent attempt to tell a friend:

"I just think the case of flouridisation is another example of the conspiracy movement hyping something up beyond belief in order to fit their scare mongering views. The evidence for it may be mixed, and there may be reason to have a proper debate about, but it is reasonable that in an attempt to address the needs of a growing number of poor people's oral health problems, flouridation is on the table as a viable option. I do have some issues with the principle of it, and would prob vote against it in manchester, but the fact that it hasn't been made mandatory across the country is a really important point that goes to the heart of yours and others concerns.

You cant say every time the govenment doesn't do something tryrannical is because it was a battle won by the people, and use that as further evidence for NWO style population kill. There are countless laws in place designed to protect us that the massess would probably prefer not be in place. smoking ban, seatbelts, expensive alchohol, speed limits, using mobile when driving - these things are saving lives but if they went for a vote or people were left to do what they wanted, they would smoke everywhere, buy loads of booze for as cheap as possible, rarely where seatbelts and use phone while driving fast - resulting in more death. Why is the govenment insisting on laws that protect us even though as individuals we probably wouldn't do it unless there were those laws. And they are just a few of very many protective laws - not to mention the things like the welfare state and NHS, which although flawed (as every man made system will be), are saving thousands of poor peoples lives every year.

Why are these laws here??? Instead of trying to integrate these facts into your theories, you and others jump on the band wagon of every little tit bit of a story that you can use to support your ideas - like the lithium thing - which within the scientific community was known about and dismissed quickly - this is one of countless other stories that Jones and his crew scream about one day but is never mentioned again, cause it was never a 'real' issues in the first place. just fuel for the fire.

Im not saying there aren't injustices, corruption and incompetence in the world. I truly believe big business is corrupt and influences global and govenmental decision making in a way that is is not in the normal person's best interest. For example, radio 4 had a great story a few weeks ago about the WHO, who allegedly changed the criteria of a pandemic so that swine flu would meet it, therefore compelling governements to stockload tamiflue injection. The accusation being that people high up in the WHO had stakes in pharmeceutical companies so would financially benefit from this decision.

I'm sure there are countless examples of this kind of corruption, and Jones is at his best when he focuses on this - but any evidence he shows for the next layer of his conspiracy, i.e. NWO mass population kill is laughable. Bohemium Grove, denver airport etc. Infact, Jones discredits the real injustices in the world by linking them to NWO ideas.

If you can accept UFO technology and free unlimited energy which shouldnt be hard to accept

He lost me there.

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I think the fact that this "plan" has been going on for over 100 years speaks more to how unlikely it is, then to how likely it is.

Maybe go along with what your CT friend believes in and gradually go into more absorbed outlandish conspiracy theories as your friend believes and goes along with it then towards the end so something like google is developing mind reading technology and at the human civilization will come to a end. Then look sad and down or somewhere for a minute then say "psyche" and then go into how monkey brains are flawed and people will believe in anything even the outlandish BS just said.

"Well he said he was sorry I was so misinformed and said when the world comes to an end I will be sorry."

Wouldn't he be dead too?

You should ask him what his plan is to stop the impending doom.

No CJ, more like this:

CT: Live your life in fear of doomsday, expecting to fight back/die horribly when it arrives, which it never will, so you keep on living your life in fear of doomsday.
Non-CT: Live a happy and fulfilling life.

I get a kick out of survivalists who buy "survival seeds."

I have lots of survival seeds. They are also known as "heirloom seeds." You can buy them at any WalMart.

I don't care.

Maybe this might work on your friend, assuming he's not a completely brainwashed "independent thinker." But the thing I've never been able to figure out is the logic of this plot. At least with David Icke's space lizards, the idea of the global elite makes more sense because they want to eat us and they live forever. But to apply it to regular humans, here's what you have to believe:

A very long time ago -- possibly centuries ago depending on who you ask, but the conservative estimate is usually at least about one century -- some very rich men got together. They said, "man, we want to be richer and we want to rule the world." So they laid out a massive plan for world domination, a plan that they would never see come to fruition because the ultimate takeover wouldn't happen until long after their deaths. This plot is to bring about a one-world government socialist police state where something like 80% of the people would be executed in a mass genocide.

Now here's where the logic falls apart -- we're talking about global elites. Big business types. So any sort of anti-capitalist, anti-free market system would be antithetical to their interests. So would mass executions. Enslaving the remaining survivors wouldn't do any good, either. A one-world government would eliminate the need for war. That means the military-industrial complex, which is so central to the NWO theories, would be eliminated.

And again, we're talking about people who initiated this plan with the knowledge that it wouldn't come to fruition until long after their death. So why initiate it in the first place? And they had such incredible foresight that they were able to plot for every single eventuality over the next century(ies), including technological advancement. I'm sorry, but there is absolutely no way a human being is that intelligent and forward-thinking.

They're incredibly intelligent, incredibly organized, but also absolutely toothless and fearful and we can overthrow and intimidate them with Alex Jones shouting at them with a bullhorn.

That's something I often ask people, if it's been under way for centuries, why would such evil people leave it up to the next generation to continue? Especially when people like Alex Jones say "it isn't about money, it's about power!" Well, if that's true, it's the opposite of power to give up on getting your goals accomplished to dominate the world and leave it to someone else to do it after you're dead.

So he's a rightwing piece of shit or he's a leftwing piece of shit with seriously bad confirmation bias.