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JoePosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 12:48
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Debunkers are an arrogant lot. This is how talking them usually goes.
1) The only go after patriots who have trouble articulate themselves or are fakes. They typically never debate the actual experts.
2) But when they do go up against an expert they keep jumping around with topics that way nothing gets said.
3) They paint all CT as believing the same thing. If you believe you in the NWO; you must also believe in little green men and Bigfoot also.
4) All evidence that goes against their world view is thrown out without much thought.
5) They just issue out insults.
6) They are the only people that can ask for prove; nobody else.

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JoePosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 12:54
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7) They believe that all people who are students of Conspiracy have to be uneducated idiots; who don't have jobs.
P.S. A idiot is a person who votes.

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 12:56
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"1) The only go after patriots who have trouble articulate themselves or are fakes. They typically never debate the actual experts."

Ronald Wieck and Mark Roberts debated Truth Movement "experts" on Hardfire. Popular Mechanics has debated the Loose Change crew on DemocracyNow!. You are either lying or simply ignorant, but I don't care which because it still won't change your pop culture religion.

"2) But when they do go up against an expert they keep jumping around with topics that way nothing gets said."

Considering you were completely wrong with your first point, I see no reason to treat this one with any credibility whatsoever.

"3) They paint all CT as believing the same thing. If you believe you in the NWO; you must also believe in little green men and Bigfoot also."

I believe you're the one who relies on "UFO tech" to explain things you're unable to explain, now you're crying about being associated with those who believe in little green men? What, were the UFOs you saw full of little pink men?

"4) All evidence that goes against their world view is thrown out without much thought."

Projection.

"5) They just issue out insults."

Eat shit.

"6) They are the only people that can ask for prove; nobody else."

No one forced you to post on a skeptical forum. There are many forums that are very friendly towards those with a CT mindset. You chose to post here, you crybaby.

"7) They believe that all people who are students of Conspiracy have to be uneducated idiots; who don't have jobs."

I believe you have a job, I just don't think it requires any skills or intelligence.

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JoePosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 12:59
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Matt do you vote?

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 13:00
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@Truth,

Do you fry burgers?

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JoePosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 13:06
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no

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 13:09
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Dig ditches? Clean toilets? Mop up at a peep show?

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Von KleistPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 13:10
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Truthisreal,

Why not start a thread by making a/some concrete claim(s), explain it in your own words and if possible provide links to evidence that supports your claim? And by that, I don't mean a youtube video. I mean something that can be checked back to a source that can be examined in context.
Step back a moment and ask yourself is it reasonable to expect anyone to watch an hour's worth of youtube videos without any idea precisely what they are looking for, no easy means of searching the videos and no way of knowing the sources that the person making the video has used?

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Energy TurtlePosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 13:19
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I have a problem with this one: "6) They are the only people that can ask for prove; nobody else."

When you make outlandish claims(earthquake machines, NWO, etc.), the burden of proof is on you.

It's also important to remember that this is a "debunking" site. It's author is not in the business of proving anything. Rather, he disproves the ludicrous claims of consipracy theorists.

On a side note, your repeated misspellings and bad grammar (of which you've noted), can easily be fixed with Firefox and its built in spell checker. Unless of course, Firefox or Mozilla is run by the NWO. By the way, if English is not your first language, I apologize.

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KovaPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 13:22
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There is no way "Truth is real" is only one person; in one post he fails to spell basic words correctly, but the next he accurately uses a comma. The grammar is sketchy, but the spelling varies so dramatically.

Anyway, "Debunkers" are indeed an arrogant lot! We believe in reading and evaluating several theories rather than being fed bunk by citationless youtube videos, even if the videos are by the most sincere snake oil salesmen. It is *way* less arrogant to assert to know the facts without evaluating a single claim and then shower one's critics with derision.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 14:57
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This is exactly what it says on page 45 of my Debunker Manual.

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j_o_jamesPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 16:04
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Truth is real,

Instead of name calling, could you please answer any of the nine questions I originally posted here: http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/open-questions-for-conspiracy-theorists ? I would greatly appreciate it!

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cranberrysaucePosted: Mar 07, 2010 - 00:56
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To be fair, voting is a pretty big waste of time.

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JoePosted: Mar 07, 2010 - 09:25
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Only idiots vote.

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Dr_Benedict_ZaroffPosted: Mar 07, 2010 - 10:24
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@Truth That is exactly why I propose a return to MONARCHY. We should ask Belgium, if they will take us. They make excellent chocolate, and their waffles are simply beyond belief. And hey! We'll get the Euro, too.

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Dr_Benedict_ZaroffPosted: Mar 07, 2010 - 12:14
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my son is also named bortPosted: Mar 08, 2010 - 13:01
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That the debunkers won't respond to every single challenge to a debate is always brought up. Most of these people have lives and do it in on their own time. On the other hand, the opposition has an almost bottomless supply of college students and twentysomethings ready to lay out every one of the movement's talking points.

That debate between Avery and Bermas and the Popular Mechanics guys was like watching a harlem globetrotters game. I cringed when I watched Bermas get up on his soap box and started calling Coburn a liar over and over again. Then it got posted on youtube, completely out of context from the rest of the debate, with the title "Jason Bermas OWNS".

The tactics of the 9/11 truth people are extremely easy to identify, but very hard to debate. You have to have consumed a huge amount of research, professional analysis, and know the complete context of every quote they have mined.

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EdPosted: Mar 08, 2010 - 13:22
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"my son is also named bort" - user name is lol :D

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