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j_o_jamesPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 19:48
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Please feel free to address any or all of these. I am honestly interested in the answers and am not posting this as a "test" or as something negative.

1. If the New World Order is so powerful, why not just declare martial law right now? Or have a few false flag attacks on United States soil within the span of a few days, and then declare it. What exactly are they waiting for?

2. Why wasn't martial law declared on the day after 9/11?

3. If the New World Order's plans are so secret, why do people keep discovering them?

4. How can you tell the difference between information and disinformation?

5. Why are conspiracy theorist leaders allowed by the New World Order to continue to reveal their plans? If the New World Order is so powerful, couldn't they just plant some sort of evidence (drugs, child pornography, etc) on these people and lock them up?

6. Reduction of the population would be easy following the problem-reaction-solution formula. Problem: cancer. Reaction: some type of "cure" but is actually a very slow, lethal toxin that takes a few years to kick in. Solution: mass population reduction in a few years. Why hasn't this route been taken by the New World Order?

7. What evidence is there that there is a freemasonry degree higher than the third?

8. What specific things can you not do today that you could do before 9/11? Or put another way, what freedoms did you enjoy before 9/11 that you do not enjoy today?

9. What is your reaction to the article "The hidden impact of conspiracy theories: perceived and actual influence of theories surrounding the death of Princess Diana" which was published in the Journal of Social Psychology (148 (2). pp. 210-221)? (abstract here: http://kar.kent.ac.uk/18928/ )

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 19:57
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I always thought there were 33 degrees of Freemasonry. Rather, I just remember having a substitute teacher in High School who had a necklace that read "33". And he told us that it represented that he was a 33rd degree Mason and that it was the highest one. Unless, the 33rd is filed under a broader "3rd degree".

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mikejohnsonPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 20:03
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Good questions.

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j_o_jamesPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 20:18
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"I always thought there were 33 degrees of Freemasonry."

This is taken from the United Grand Lodge of England's Book of Constitutions 2009, page 1:

"By the solemn Act of Union between the two Grand Lodges of Free-Masons of England in December 1813, it was 'declared and pronounced that pure Antient Masonry consists of three degrees and no more, viz., those of the Entered Apprentice, the Fellow Craft, and the Master Mason, including the Supreme Order of the Holy Royal Arch'.

http://www.ugle.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/boc-2009-online-craft-rules.pdf

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advancedatheistPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 20:28
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Again I refer to Mark Hoofnagle's Unified Theory of the Crank. Some people have a measurable cognitive defect where they can't detect their own incompetence, and they can't recognize competence in others. Hence they can hold several and even contradictory crank beliefs at once.

You see this in ufology as well as in CT. For example, how can these allegedly super-advanced, and presumably super-competent, aliens keep crashing their saucers on our planet like habitual drunk drivers?

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 20:33
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Are there really no other smaller degrees or something? Oh well, I never knew that was a CT thing.

Edit: Is 33 the number that CT'ers cite?

Now I feel all loopy. I SEENT IT WITH MY OWN EYES I TELL YA.

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j_o_jamesPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 20:41
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"Are there really no other smaller degrees or something?"

No. According to the rules, there are only three.

I asked question seven because I keep hearing that members of the New World Order have freemasonry degrees much higher than three, but I can find no evidence of these higher degrees.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 20:46
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Ah, I think this might be it:

"There is no degree of Craft Freemasonry higher than that of Master Mason. Although some Masonic bodies and orders have further degrees named with higher numbers, these degrees may be considered to be supplements to the Master Mason degree rather than promotions from it. An example is the Scottish Rite, conferring degrees numbered from 4° up to 33°."

Sorry to derail, just trying to figure this out.

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SkyPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 20:49
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Aren't the other degrees are only for Scottish Rite Masonry or something?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_(Freemasonry)

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advancedatheistPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 20:51
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Freemasonry probably attracts its share of Baron Münchhausen types. It wouldn't surprise me if some of them boast about having reached secret higher Masonic ranks which don't exist.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 20:54
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Yeah, Sky. I think it's just for the Scottish Rite stuff. Pretty much smaller degrees inside the three larger degrees.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 21:00
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I think there are 33 degrees, but I think most people stay around the 3rd.

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j_o_jamesPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 21:06
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"Aren't the other degrees are only for Scottish Rite Masonry or something?"

Even if true, I can not find where this would be recognized by the United Grand Lodge of England. Some conspiracy theorists say that the England still has power over the United States, so I used England's rules and not Scotland's.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 21:13
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I'm sure the CT claims don't refer to the Scottish Rite ones, probably just some non-existent 4th Degree above Master Mason.

Anyhoo, let's get some Ct'ers to answer those questions!

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 21:22
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1. If the New World Order is so powerful, why not just declare martial law right now? Or have a few false flag attacks on United States soil within the span of a few days, and then declare it. What exactly are they waiting for?

They're waiting until they take away all our guns, because no billion dollar unmanned drone is a match for the shotgun I bought at K-Mart.

"2. Why wasn't martial law declared on the day after 9/11?"

We still had our guns.

"3. If the New World Order's plans are so secret, why do people keep discovering them?"

The New World Order loves rubbing the sheeples' face in their diabolical plans. Those of us enlightened enough to see them are mocked by sheeple like you when we try to wake you up.

"4. How can you tell the difference between information and disinformation?"

If I agree with it, its information. If I don't, its disinformation. Things written by Jews are automatic disinformation, unless it is exposing a Jewish/Nazi connection. That's information.

"5. Why are conspiracy theorist leaders allowed by the New World Order to continue to reveal their plans? If the New World Order is so powerful, couldn't they just plant some sort of evidence (drugs, child pornography, etc) on these people and lock them up?"

THEY KILLED BILL COOPER ARE YOU BLIND OMG?!?!

"6. Reduction of the population would be easy following the problem-reaction-solution formula. Problem: cancer. Reaction: some type of "cure" but is actually a very slow, lethal toxin that takes a few years to kick in. Solution: mass population reduction in a few years. Why hasn't this route been taken by the New World Order?"

First they must make us all retarded through vaccines so they can take our guns.

"7. What evidence is there that there is a freemasonry degree higher than the third?"

YouTube videos.

"8. What specific things can you not do today that you could do before 9/11? Or put another way, what freedoms did you enjoy before 9/11 that you do not enjoy today?"

THE PATRIOT ACT ARE YOU BLIND OMG?!

"9. What is your reaction to the article "The hidden impact of conspiracy theories: perceived and actual influence of theories surrounding the death of Princess Diana" which was published in the Journal of Social Psychology (148 (2). pp. 210-221)? (abstract here: http://kar.kent.ac.uk/18928/ )"

Disinformation.

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MuertosPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 00:10
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Scottish Rites? Hellz yah! *puts on kilt, pours glass of Scotch* *Scottish accent* I heard there was a world to be taken over. When do we start?

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Von KleistPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 05:20
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Actually the Caledonian-Hibernian banking cabal has been secretly running the world since the late 17th century. Glencoe 1692, 38 MacDonalds disappear from history. Two years later the Bank of England was founded. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Look at the Caledonian influence in the Napoleonic wars. On the French side, Marshall MacDonald, on the British side the Highland regiments. Talk about playing both sides!
The final part of their plan is now coming to fruition through their puppet, Barac O'Bama.

Please note I have nothing against Irish or Scottish people, it is just the evil, degenerate, sub-human Caledonian-Hibernian cabal that I want exterminated.

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advancedatheistPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 08:30
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@ Matt:

They're waiting until they take away all our guns, because no billion dollar unmanned drone is a match for the shotgun I bought at K-Mart.

Somehow the National Rifle Association got my work number, so the other day an NRA hack called me and told me that the attorney general wants to outlaw certain types of firearms and asked if I wanted to join his organization for three years at some special rate.

I declined, of course, because the NRA exists as an auxiliary of the CT culture, and it regularly publishes false predictions of gun seizures to try to raise money.

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j_o_jamesPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 08:50
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"Glencoe 1692, 38 MacDonalds disappear from history. Two years later the Bank of England was founded. Coincidence?"

What evidence leads you to conclude that these events, separated by 2 years, are not just a coincidence?

"On the French side, Marshall MacDonald, on the British side the Highland regiments. Talk about playing both sides!"

I confess that I do not know much about the Napoleonic wars.

"The final part of their plan is now coming to fruition through their puppet, Barac O'Bama."

If possible, please describe this plan. Also, how do you know it is the final part? What evidence can you point me to that supports the idea that President Obama is a puppet?

"[...] the National Rifle Association [...] told me that the attorney general wants to outlaw certain types of firearms [....]"

I would ask them where they got this information from and to point you to documentation that supports it. Otherwise, it's just hearsay.

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Von KleistPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 10:19
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There's no such thing as coincidence. Coincidences are what 'they' want you to believe. Their plan is world domination and whatever makes you afraid at this present time. I know it's the final part, because it'll make it easier for me to sell books, DvDs and T-shirts.
Hmm, maybe I'm too honest for this CT lark. . .

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JoePosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 10:24
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argonessen
Most real CTs are not trying to sell books, DVDs or t-shirts. The are tring to spread the truth.

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MuertosPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 10:26
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"Most real CTs are not trying to sell books, DVDs or t-shirts. The are tring to spread the truth."

Only a very few CTs are trying to sell books, DVDs or T-shirts, but they are trying to sell them to gullible people like you who think that by buying them you will help "spread the truth."

Truth is Real, I bet you own at least one Alex Jones or Loose Change product--DVD, book, shirt, whatever--that you didn't get for free.

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JoePosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 10:35
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I am not a fan of Alex Jones. He is Mokingbird!!! But I am a bid fan of Bill Cooper. I did sometimes post some stuff from Alex when I thought there might be some truth to it.

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j_o_jamesPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 12:21
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"There's no such thing as coincidence."

This is a faith-based statement. As such, you can not prove it to me, and I can not disprove it to you. If I'm going to believe in these conspiracies again, I'm going to need a little more evidence than just faith.

"Most real CTs are not trying to sell books, DVDs or t-shirts."

Granted, but I have a difficult time believing someone who has all the answers if you just buy their book or product.

"I did sometimes post some stuff from Alex when I thought there might be some truth to it."

Regarding the truth, could you please answer question four? What is your definition of "truth?"

There are obviously some conspiracy theorists on this forum. I'm simply requesting serious answers to one, some, or all of the questions I originally posted.

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 12:24
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"Regarding the truth, could you please answer question four? What is your definition of "truth?""

Stuff that follows his puppet master narrative is "truth."

Stuff that doesn't, isn't.

I wish it was more complicated than that.

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Von KleistPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 12:25
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Yeah, now that Truthisreal is on this thread, maybe he could address the OP?

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JoePosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 16:26
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1. If the New World Order is so powerful, why not just declare martial law right now? Or have a few false flag attacks on United States soil within the span of a few days, and then declare it. What exactly are they waiting for?
They have to get every country moving as one. It takes time. The World is like a chess game.
2. Why wasn't martial law declared on the day after 9/11?
It was just one of many moves heading in that derection.
3. If the New World Order's plans are so secret, why do people keep discovering them?
Ther is a lot of disinfo. out there; but there have been many people mudered to silance them.
4. How can you tell the difference between information and disinformation?
disinformation= all mainstream scorces (government, acidamia and media)
5. Why are conspiracy theorist leaders allowed by the New World Order to continue to reveal their plans? If the New World Order is so powerful, couldn't they just plant some sort of evidence (drugs, child pornography, etc) on these people and lock them up?
They don't because the masses are so sheepish that they don't listien.
6. Reduction of the population would be easy following the problem-reaction-solution formula. Problem: cancer. Reaction: some type of "cure" but is actually a very slow, lethal toxin that takes a few years to kick in. Solution: mass population reduction in a few years. Why hasn't this route been taken by the New World Order?
It is
7. What evidence is there that there is a freemasonry degree higher than the third?
Albert Pyke
8. What specific things can you not do today that you could do before 9/11? Or put another way, what freedoms did you enjoy before 9/11 that you do not enjoy today?
Free Speech
9. What is your reaction to the article "The hidden impact of conspiracy theories: perceived and actual influence of theories surrounding the death of Princess Diana" which was published in the Journal of Social Psychology (148 (2). pp. 210-221)? (abstract here: http://kar.kent.ac.uk/18928/ )
Psychology is fake.

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JoePosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 16:28
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My turn why is there a mason symbol on the one dollar bill?

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 16:34
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"My turn why is there a mason symbol on the one dollar bill?"

http://www.greatseal.com/mythamerica/mythreverse.html</p>

Yawn.

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MuertosPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 16:43
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Truth is Real, two questions:

1. Besides Bill Cooper, who else has been murdered by the NWO to keep them quiet?
2. You claim you have lost the right of free speech. Please give us an example of something you (personally) were able to say before that you are unable to say now because of the NWO, and identify what consequences you suffered as a result of saying it, and from whom.

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