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I seriously wouldn't be surprised if he is actually Judy Wood !

Well VTV came here and pretended to be a woman, so that isn't too far off.

Had to come back to post this, because some of you may find it interesting (or not). if not, oh well, 10 seconds out of my day. Here:

The FBI's official website lists Osama Bin Laden as wanted for a specific crime he committed in 1998, so why isn't he also listed as wanted for the alleged crime you say he commited in 2001? Perhaps the FBI is just taking 9 years too long to add the charges of 9/11 to their official website? If it was actually him admitting to 9/11, why hasn't the FBI updated their site? Just one more question to ponder... http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/usama-bin-laden and this link touches on a supposed CIA transcript logging Osama Bin Laden's communications over the last many years: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/07/10/gordon-duff-classified-cia-transcript-counters-bin-laden-terror-role/

cya

-Abe

You come here and spam nonsense and complain that we won't look at your evidence, but this very website answers your FBI question:

Bin Laden hasn’t been indicted for 9/11. That is true. Why hasn’t he been? Because virtually the only chance of catching bin Laden, who is believed to be hiding in Waziristan (a remote section of Pakistan), is by the intercession of U.S. military forces—and the U.S. wants to try bin Laden as an enemy combatant under a military tribunal. (See discussion on this issue here). If he’s indicted for 9/11, by, for instance, the federal court in the Southern District of New York, where the World Trade Center attacks happened, he would be subject to prosecution by that civilian court. It is also standard practice for federal suspects wanted for many crimes to be subject to only one indictment for an earlier crime; meaning, as they commit more crimes, authorities usually do not keep adding indictments piecemeal, one for each crime. Bin Laden was indicted for the 1996 terrorist bombings in Africa. That was years before 9/11.

This is a quite common practice, by the U.S. as well as others. Mobster Al Capone wasn’t convicted and jailed for the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre or any of his other infamous crimes; he landed at Alcatraz for tax evasion. Saddam Hussein was tried and executed under Iraqi law not for his most infamous crimes—the invasion of Kuwait, or the chemical bombing of Kurdish towns in 1988—but rather, for a much more obscure offense, a series of assassinations in 1982 that few outside of Iraq had ever heard of. Serial killers are rarely indicted for all their suspected crimes. Where a suspect has a number of crimes to his or her name, a prosecutor has a wide range of charges to choose from.

In short, it has nothing to do with a supposed dearth of evidence. It has everything to do with prosecutorial strategy regarding how, and particularly where, a suspect is indicted.

Personally, as a former attorney, I disagree with the decision not to indict Osama for 9/11. I believe he should be charged with that crime, and, even if captured alive by the military, I think he should be tried in a civilian court. It is interesting to note that other 9/11 figures, such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, have been indicted and will be tried in civilian courts. I would think it likely that, if (God willing) Osama is captured, he will eventually be indicted for 9/11—probably after he’s already been found guilty by a military tribunal.

Note that on the FBI’s page listing its most wanted terrorists, including bin Laden it specifically says:

“The indictments currently listed on the posters allow them to be arrested and brought to justice. Future indictments may be handed down as various investigations proceed in connection to other terrorist incidents, for example, the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.” (emphasis added)

If bin Laden was truly innocent, and the people behind 9/11 really wanted to frame him, how hard would it be to come up with a phony indictment? They wouldn’t even need to rig a grand jury; they’d just present them trumped-up evidence indicating his guilt. This would be the first thing the conspirators would have done after 9/11! If it was a frame-up, how could they possibly have let something like this slip through the cracks? Once again, as with all Sacred List arguments, conspirators want you to believe either that (A) the conspirators, having committed all sorts of other heinous crimes, stopped short at the relatively easy step of securing a phony indictment; or (B) the conspirators were so careless as to allow this oversight, which has not been corrected after nearly 9 years.

Nah I copy/pasted from Muertos blog. :p

Hey Kepp,

I have heard similar explanations, but what I do not understand is that if Bin Laden truly 'admitted to 9/11', shouldn't that be enough to charge him? So why hasn't he been charged? This is not a piece of physical evidence, but it is an interesting point of conversation, so thanks for the mature reply above.

One quick thing about your post. You are assuming that all people who realize the official story is full of lies must think that "the conspirators" are equivalent to "the government". In contrast, it is a very possible scenario that a group of wealthy terrorists committed the attack against this country and used a group of people within our government and media corporations to blame it on Bin Laden but do not have the ability to manipulate the official FBI website to create a 'phony charge' against him. I do agree with you though, that if 9/11 was an "inside job" as many wild truthers love to suggest, then one would imagine there would be no problem creating a phony 'indictment' page which officially shows Bin Laden being charged with 9/11.

I do not speculate about who did it, because as a scientist I try to focus on what happened that day and how, and therefore will offer no opinion about who might have truly been behind 9/11, but I must encourage you to not lump all of us into a "9/11 was an inside job!" category, for I do not see enough evidence to make the claim that our government organized 9/11 against its own country. It is very possible that the majority of our government was tricked, as was a majority of our country, into believing (before the second plane even hit) that Osama Bin Laden did this. See this image to see a screen shot of a major media channel already pushing the "Osama did it" story before the 2nd building was attacked: http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af205/jfibonacci/all43secondalbum/945nbcrightleftshadowbehindbldgnoex.png</p>

Just saying, please try not to stereotype me.

Thanks,

-Abe

Muertos,

Your idea of truth violates physics, how can you live with that?

To explain the truth you need to explain the evidence.

Thousands of photos, graphs, videos, and documents, which cannot be explained by jetfuel/airliners/hijackers/explosives/thermite/nuclear bombs, or any combination of those terms. See a summary here: http://drjudywood.com/wtc

Let me know when you can put forth one, cohesive, more optimal scientific conclusion which explains all the evidence Muertos, because I am still waiting. You sound like Soviet Nuclear Intelligence Officer Dimitri Khalezov (retired), "I swear to the Almighty, this is the truth that I speak." Start by explaining the evidence, then try to explain the truth.

I REPEAT: Thousands of photos, graphs, videos, and documents, which cannot be explained by jetfuel/airliners/hijackers/explosives/thermite/nuclear bombs, or ANY combination of those terms. Summary here: http://drjudywood.com/wtc

The evidence IS the truth.

Goodnight,

-Abe

Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez
M2 Medical Student
B.S. Biology / Neurobiology

Abe you bring out the worse in people, it's about time you started analyzing why.

I like how he always signs his posts with useless information.

Goodnight,

-Edward

Edward Leonard Winston
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M.A. Computer Science

Mulholland Drive was great.

Let me know when you can put forth one, cohesive, more optimal scientific conclusion which explains all the evidence Muertos, because I am still waiting.

More optimal than to assume that some space beams, that you don't even know exist pulverized the WTC just because you can't exactly pinpoint every minor detail?

Damn, that's gonna be hard.

Goodnight,

- CJ

Cyborg G. Jesus
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Favorite movie is either The Godfather or Fight Club SO HARD CANT DECIDE

GUYS GUYS GUYS I JUST SAW A UF-

Never mind. It was a pigeon.

I love how the guy who believes in super beam weapons from outer space refuses to believe that planes took down the towers because it "violates the laws of physics."

There's a handing-out-speeding-tickets-at-the-Indianapolis-500 quality to that.

Your idea of truth violates physics, how can you live with that?

Yea yea, Mr Death Rays.

Why won't you show us a energy weapon capable of anywhere near the power you are claiming destroyed the WTC? You can't, I know. We know you cant because its science fiction

Dude, poon, poonie, poonany, whatever the fuck your name is.

I only VERY recently stopped believing in conspiracy theories (compared to most of the former CT's here) and I have to tell ya...

1. The internet is the internet, not some magical medium by which the truth shall be brought to the sheeple.

2. CT's suck, mainly because they make you look like an idiot, and someone to stay away from.

3. As an high school student aspiring to be in medicine, I REALLY have to know. What other pseudoscience bullshit are you believing in? If you're into death rays somehow being more sound to the laws of physics than hijacked planes, then what other crazy shit do you think is valid?

I say this mainly because my dad is a HUGE CT, and he believes in that tapping yourself stuff to cure illness, reflexology, and colon cleansing. And I also have that "Former junkie recalling his experiences" mentality going on.

Good night,

Omni

Omni - Science
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Future M.D/Ph.D certified