Skeptic Project

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=229&id=292420

I think we all are thinking the same thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCFCeJTEzNU

HAHAHA, Like I didn't see this one coming 500 miles away. I had told VTV to get a job but nnooooo, he and his Zeitcult are so antijob it's not even funny... It's sad also because if you drops Vradio I'll no longer be able to make fun of the fattest member of TZM/TVP.

He uses pity tactics to try to get last minute donations from people... It's pretty sad. Although I am for donations and raising money and never look at donating to starving people in Africa as begging VTV ant' starving but deer lrod can that dude beg and get pity upon. Yeah VTV you win, the life you make and choose for yourself is pretty sad I may donate to your fatass it was actually moving how poor and sad you are that you have to upt it out into the public. If I donate I request that I will find VTV a JOB and if he doesn't take it then it's proof that VTV is simply antijob and would rather mooch off his listeners. His vradio listeners should be pitying the dude they should be helping VTV find a job somewhere instead of living off my dime and there dime!

He makes up another excuse as to why his fatass can't get a job in his blog. She didn't end his job options he fucknig ended his job options. If the man needs help finding a job I'll more than happy to direct him to the nearest fast food restraints, their always highering people...

"The last two were a couple. One of which was a young lady willing to watch my kids. I waited for the divorce to be final and started to look for a job and got so far as the interview process only to be told that her father has convinced her to move back home. (A fairly common thing right now. Young adults move back in with their parents so they can lower their monthly costs and keep their lifestyle. The fact that she is pregnant doesn't help.) So that ended my job options. "

I knew he was going to attempt to raise and live off his vradio but it's just really sad to be honest. Talk about a hypocrit oohh money is bad but hey please donate... Sounds more like a preacher than anything else... VTV you need to lose some weight and stop being poor! If you found a job you'd hit two birds with one stone!

If he stops vradio then he should give up his computer to someone else...

@cyborgjesus

I'd be more than happy to contribute to what you said in VTV's blog.

"If you're running out of topics: I'm sure the "renegades" - people who left TZM (Domokato, Brenton, Aaron, me) would agree to give a couple reasons for their decision that you can debate on air with your boys.

If you'd announce this as debating the arguments of educated ex-members and not "debunking CS trolls" on the forums, I'm sure you'd spark some interest and increase your revenue.

PN me on CS or TZM if you need help.

Cheers,
CyborgJesus"

What is his blog URL ?

> I had told VTV to get a job but nnooooo, he and his Zeitcult are so antijob

I'm not so sure VTV is anti-job myself, but many TZM members are, and certainly the ethos of TZM is as you say, anti-job.

> they should be helping VTV find a job somewhere

Precisely.

I had bleeted myself as you probably well know, repeatedly that the TZM site needed a jobs section at the very least.

I suggest http://www.indeed.com to VTV, it might help just a bit.

> He makes up another excuse as to why his fatass can't get a job in his blog.

To be fair, as another minority white guy just like VTV, I have to say, getting a job isn't particularly easy these days, nor has it been these last few decades either, if your not qualified, experienced, or in the right place at the right time, or know someone who can help you.

TZM is full of thousands of members, hundreds of thousands, so the very least dear PJ could do is mention in his newsletter that VTV needs a job and to ask all what is it, 400,000 folk to help get him one.

There should be a list of TZM members seeking work put up regularly..

> One of which was a young lady willing to watch my kids.

How old are his kids ?

> Talk about a hypocrit oohh money is bad but hey please donate...

To be fair, I think VTV has always been for money, its the rest of the loony crowd he hangs out with who are so anti-money that need a good kick up the backside.

VTV really should have pushed more that the answer is money..

I did worry that something like this would happen, in fact, TZM members have been losing their jobs, ending up homeless since TZM started, just most folk don't spot their plees for help just before they vanish off the internet..

> VTV you need to lose some weight and stop being poor!

Indeed!

I'm on a diet myself, I did as some of you know, offer to diet with him, so we could compete against each other and help with motivation. (Plus there would be some PR value in VTV beats Nanos in diet race! unless of course I beat him :-) )

When I was facing being homeless recently, and my back was to the wall, several TZM members without me asking voluntarly gave me money to pay the rent for a couple of months. (After that surprise, I then did ask for help and got a little more, just what I needed to avoid being homeless, and now the books are balanced enough that we can keep a roof over our heads, even if we have only 28p a day during the week to eat with.. (Thats a packet of peanuts to you and me..))

So I do wish him all the best in getting the money, but I do worry that his moderation on the forums might have spoilt somewhat peoples attitude towards him and people may not be as generous to him as they was to me..

But, even so, I do hope he can get enough money to save his ass.

And I hope the experience teaches him, and every other TZM member that they all need to go out and get jobs, or create businesses to employ each other so that this doesn't happen to another TZM member.

Its entirely preventable as I see it, if they help each other and stop wasting so much money on DVD's and train tickets to see PJ/Fresco.

They need to start helping each other, or PJ will be next..

I have to say, its nice to know he is a landlord!

I hear thats the best way to get an income..

Though, with falling incomes these days, more landlords are having trouble getting paying tenants.

You'd think there would be enough TZM members to find him some tenants..

Thats if any of them have jobs :-)

> he could certainly learn commercial writing, copywriting or webseminar hosting.

Those sound ideal, but just how realistic are such oppertunties ?

I've done a bit of such work myself in the past, but I have to say, I don't find it at all easy, or at all! to find that kind of work, so any pointers to just where to look and how to get started would be appreciated, as I really do want a job!

If I can manage it, then I'll be sure to pass onto VTV what I've learnt so he can do the same.

Its just its looking like the kind of, anyone can get a job if they try kinda of argument I have heard repeatedly over the years and its wearing a tad thin when there are heaps of people out there trying to get employment.

Those of you lucky enough to fall on your ass the right way think its just so easy for the rest of us to do likewise, when its not as easy as that.

VTV is as far as I can see it, one of those whose position actually sucks, and even if he did try harder (Though to be frankly honest, it looks like he is trying.), he would probably be stuck in the same shit he is in now.

Sadly, there are few genuine unemployed and seeking work online to actually stand up and say this, as most are, as you rightly say, lazy bums.

User surbitonpete from the TZM/UK forums being a particularly good example of someone dealt a shit hand and yet always trying to find a job, do what he can who understands this as well as I do.

How many of you have worked for 1/10th of the legal minimum wage up to your neck in raw sewage, just to pay your rent, or waded waiste deep through snowdrifts miles to get home because you cannot afford a car.

I suspect not so many..

So do cut the guy some slack.

But do remind him he needs to lose weight :-)

After all, he must think of his kids future, no use if daddy dies of a heart attack like mind did when I was 7, otherwise they will suffer being losers too..

Thanks CJ, all nice practical advice.

> sometimes you even find exotic positions like paid moderators for forums with a
> higher workload.

I actually got my last physical interivew for a job like that, but for some reason my 15+ years worth of moderation experience didn't count for anything, they didn't even ask me a single thing about that!

> find a field that interests you and master it.

Thats pretty much what I'm doing at the moment, good to know at least I'm heading in the right direction.

I donated a lot of money to this dumb shit. Their was a time when I was in trouble and I myself did not have family to fall back on, none the less I pulled my self out of it, this was in my teenage years and it's a long long sad story but in the end I managed to pull through. He had ample time to find a job their is just no excuse I can see, no fat jokes or poor jokes here just no excuse...

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot..

> Codie is just a pathetic little internet bully. Nothing more.
>
> He is listed as the most destructive poster in the history of Wikipedia as well.

Someone please buy VTV a copy of:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influence_People</p>

I really had hoped VTV started to mature, but instead we see him stuck in the mindset that he has done no wrong and its the other guys fault. :-(

Its such a shame that he fails to spot that he could so easily be talking about himself there.

I think if I was to ever offer him a job, it would be conditional that he talks with a therapist on a regular basis so he can improve as a person, otherwise I'd hate to be paying someone to continue to be a jackass.

Thats assuming behaviour can be changed and is not a product of ones limited intelligence..

Well, you can't say I didn't try and put in a good word for him, and give him the oppertunity to act diplomatic like on his own blog, but alas no, back to schoolyard politics we end up..

Only job VTV has ever had was as a gas station clerk, which he was fired from for stealing.

He's a grown ass man with no education, no skills and no job history; sucking off the public tit. Dude's a loser. He will always be a loser and he will die a loser.

I don't really care what happens to VTV's kids. Chances are their genetics are so abysmal they'll never amount to any more than their parents have.

I'll judge what he does:

He sits on his keester and expects people half his age to pay his bills because welfare won't cover all the luxuries he feels he deserves from life.

He's a welfare queen. He'd probably have more kids if any female would touch his nasty little pecker. I highly doubt his children serve any purpose but as excuses for his inability to succeed. I'd feel bad for them if I gave a shit. But I don't. They'll probably turn out to be worthless crackers just like him.

I really don't believe he homeschools those kids. I don't think he gives a shit about his kids at all. He reminds me of people who run around showing off their kids like they're some kind of award. Usually they do this because they're shitty fuckin' parents. The rest of us are too busy parenting to show it off.

I find it a bit odd on his myspace that VTV as far as enthenticity would say he's native american. I doubt he's purely native america or would receive enough money to get any type of governmental benifit, I bet he tried to go that route during welfare. I also think VTV does it because it's good for politics if you say your native american but deer lord if anybody got a good look at the pale whale there are more dominant genes in him than native america.

here's VTV's myspace (link below)

http://www.myspace.com/vtv115</p>

Details
Status: Single
Here for: Networking, Dating, Serious Relationships, Friends
Hometown: Pontiac Michigan
Orientation: Straight
Height: 6' 2"
Ethnicity: Native American
Religion: Atheist
Zodiac Sign: Aquarius
Children: Proud parent
Smoke / Drink: No / No

CS corrected version of VTV details

Details
Status: Has EX wiccan wife, divorced because I was too fat
Here for: Networking, Dating, Serious Relationships, Friends, I'll bang anything that will touch me pale ass.
Hometown: Pontiac Michigan
Orientation: Straight
Height: 6' 2"
Ethnicity: Native American, but I'm also other ethnicity's I merely do this as a political ploy and sympathy, as well as for attempts at governmental benefits so i don't have to work.
Religion: Atheist, I changed this from a wiccan but i'm still a wiccan that worships the devil.
Body type: Fat
Zodiac Sign: Aquarius
Children: Proud parent of two kids, one with my now EX wife and the other happened when I was married with my wife I had a g/f on the side I had sex with and has a illegitimate child with her she decided to keep the child but not me :(
Smoke / Drink: too poor to afford smoke / to poor to afford to drink