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JoePosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 14:41
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O.K. according to the research that of Bill Cooper; that I have not been able to disprove. That is why I have come to believe that it is true. There have been hundreds of Secret Societies, whose roots go all the way to the Babylon Mystery cult. It was after the Second World War that these Secret Societies came together to form a governing body; the Bilderburg Group. Now Bill Cooper did at one time believe in UFOs but came to regard it as a trick,
P.S. What I call UFO tech is really vary advanced technology that the government (i.e. shadow one) keeps under wraps.

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JoePosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 14:52
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Before anybody asks during World War to the Shadow Government was made just in case the real one was destroyed. But as time went on it has became so secret that very few people in the real government knows that is there. The few that know about it are controlled by it by it. It is in turn is controlled by the Secret Societies.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 14:53
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"O.K. according to the research that of Bill Cooper; that I have not been able to disprove."

You should change "disprove" to "prove", and then just end the post right there.

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 15:01
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Oh, this is the guy who claims everything is the result of UFO tech he can't explain and has no proof of its existence.

Boring.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 15:04
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"Oh, this is the guy who claims everything is the result of UFO tech he can't explain and has no proof of its existence.

Boring. "

He seems much more coherent than UFO TECH guy.

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MuertosPosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 15:04
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NWO, Bilderberg Group, UFO technology, taxes are illegal, Babylon mystery cult...you guys never come up with anything new, do you? (Well, except beam weapons and paint chips, I'll admit those were inventive theories, though totally bogus).

I've spent all morning arguing with global warming deniers and 9/11 Twoofers on Twitter, so I'm a little disgruntled to see the same YouTube stupidity sprayed on this forum with a fire hose by the same kind of people who accept uncritically that a drunk paranoid anti-government delusional loon who liked to shoot at police is gospel truth because he's been "unable to disprove" his "research." That leads me to ask, Truth is Real, how hard did you try? Probably not very, I'm thinking.

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JoePosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 15:24
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Well can you disprove him????

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JoePosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 15:28
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EdPosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 16:20
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@Truth is real:

Post a claim you think Bill made that is good and then you can see what people think. Don't just demand people "disprove him". When someone asks me to "disprove" Alex Jones, I almost draw a blank since I really do not know where to start.

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slackjawedPosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 17:14
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I was out after making my post. I offered proof in the way of inviting you to Eagar, Arizona. I will introduce you to several people that live here and even some that were involved. I offer to introduce you to the deputy that shot Bill Cooper. There are only links on the internet that claim to "prove" there was a govt. conspiracy. Since they are simply the wishful ramblings of those that want to believe, they have not offered, as I have, for you to personally come here and talk to real people.
What is better evidence? I am not an internet link, I am REAL.
For those of you that are talking about Bill Cooper's association with Travis Walton, and UFO's, I offer to do the same. I know Travis Walton, he lives about 45 miles away in White Mountain lakes, and I will introduce you to him as well. Be prepared to pay him though, Travis does nothing without being paid.
Again, what better proof is there than to be able to come here yourself, and meet the very people that have been involved in these
I thought about taking a picture and posting to prove where I am, but that isn't something that can't be faked.
slackjawed
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Eagar, AZ 85925

Even with that name on it, it will get to me. I know, I have gotten mail from another message board addressed the same way. In addition, if you go to the CircleK, and ask for slackjawed, they will point you to me.

Come to Eagar, come see for yourself. Make up your own mind by talking to real people...

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SkyPosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 17:36
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Just wondering, what does Travis Walton have to do with anything?

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 18:13
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"Just wondering, what does Travis Walton have to do with anything? "

I'd imagine its just the typical incestuous relationship that comes with CT circles.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 02, 2010 - 21:38
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I want a cool nickname IRL too.

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JoePosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 19:04
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I really wish people would of at least taken a look at what I posted. Instead of dismissing it out of hand.

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EdPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 19:15
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Truth is real:

As far as I can see you have yet to make any solid claim for us to talk about.

Simply posting links to all his videos is not something anyone wants to bother with. If you want to talk about a specific claim please do make one and I'm sure people will respond to to it.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 19:15
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"I really wish people would of at least taken a look at what I posted. Instead of dismissing it out of hand. "

You assume that the people here have never heard of Bill Cooper. This isn't anything new. I guess that's all part of the CT'er belief system, that they have this esoteric knowledge that no one else has access to. Everyone else is just mindless sheep.

I know that even if by some slim chance, you took up Slackjawed on his offer... or even saw indisputable proof that Bill Cooper was a conman, you would not believe it. Why? People are too proud to admit these things. You would not admit that you've been duped by a conman, that your entire belief system is built upon the words of one man who only wanted your money and attention. Hell, I don't think I would either. That's why I believe it's so hard to turn CT'ers. They see the evidence, they sometimes realize how wrong they are... but they are not willing to give up this huge part of their identity.

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JoePosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 19:36
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He never sold t-shirts or coffee mugs like Alex Jones. How can he be a conman?

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 19:37
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One need not be as blatant as Alex Jones. Books and videos will do the same. It doesn't even have to be about the profit.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 20:57
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People don't always need money to motivate them to lie:

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html<br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism</p>

And some people are just pathological liars. Something I've noticed about many conspiracy theorists is the inability to recognize that anyone would do wrong for the sake of doing wrong.

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 21:25
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@Truth,

There are people in the world who will lie to you because they can.

And just because Bill Cooper did not sell all the crap Alex Jones does means nothing. He still sold books, he stilled toured the CT speaking circuit, he still did interviews. You think he did all that stuff for free? I really, really doubt it.

It isn't like believing in conspiracy theories make you magically immune to the need for money. If Bill Cooper was so against the fiat currency why did he even use it to get in tax trouble in the first place? Why didn't he shoot and grow his own food? Why didn't he live completely off the grid?

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JoePosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 22:12
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Because he was trying to warn people like you. But for what ever reason you people never listen.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 22:30
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We did listen, we just weren't as impressionable to arrive at the same conclusions that you did.

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JoePosted: Mar 03, 2010 - 23:13
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Sil
Then if he was lieing. Tell me why he was shot exicution style in the back of the head by the cops?

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MuertosPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 00:13
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Truth, if you can't spell, will you PLEASE at least run your posts through spell-check before you post them? My IQ drops about 12 points every time I read one of your egregious assaults on the English language, before we even get to your multitudinous assaults on logic and reason.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 01:11
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Then if he was lieing. Tell me why he was shot exicution style in the back of the head by the cops?"

I don't believe he was shot execution style. Do you have any proof of this? Some sort of death certificate, or autopsy report? Let me guess... the NWO altered these to say he wasn't?

At any rate, does the term "suicide by cop" mean nothing to you? It's common enough of an occurrence to warrant it's own term. I learned about it back in this Death & Dying course I took.

Okay, let's say he WAS shot in the back of the head. How does this in any way prove that he was right about everything or that he wasn't lying?

Imagine there was someone who said the exact opposite of whatever Bill Cooper said. And one day, this man was shot in the head... would you suddenly believe everything he had said?

I'm sure you're at the point where nothing will convince you otherwise. After all, what man in their early 30's would want to admit to having for over half their life followed blindly and without questioning... a man, who for all intents and purposes was just a glorified conman.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 01:16
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Shot execution style, where do you get that?

If he was "shot execution style"

1) Why would he allow himself to be shot point blank range in the back of the head?
2) If he was shot point blank range in the back of the head, how was he still alive shortly afterward?

Let's review:

+ He was wanted for tax evasion
+ He was wanted for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon
+ He threatened passers by with weapons
+ He threatened to "not be taken alive" if they tried to arrest him
+ He began shooting at the police first
+ He was running and shooting back at the same time

In the real world this usually causes people to be shot and killed, especially when cops have guns too.

But I guess he was just some guy minding his own business and the cops just happened to gun him down for absolutely nothing.

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Dr_Benedict_ZaroffPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 01:18
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can I post a crapload of youtube videos, too?

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 01:24
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Only of equal or greater hilarity.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 01:44
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Well, according to Slackjaw... we could add the murder of that deputy to the list, couldn't we? Assuming we find another source for it ;)

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Agent MattPosted: Mar 04, 2010 - 07:49
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@Sil,

Slackjawed's claims fall pretty much in line with the other things I've read about Cooper since his death on sites like AboveTopSecret. Also, CTs have used his death as an opportunity to come clean about their experiences with Cooper on the CT circuit. Everything he's posted dovetails perfectly, as Cooper seems to have a pretty long history of alcohol fueled hostility.

I just see no real reason to doubt his claims.

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