Skeptic Project

I recently found this site and finally decided to meet some of you.

I came here in peace, to see what debunkers and theorists have to say. As I assume everyone else on here does as well, I seek truth. However, truth won't be easy to find, so I believe I may have to stick with believing the most rational theories.

I'm still debating on whether or not I directly believe the 9/11 conspiracies (I am a bit indecisive), though the conspiracies do have the upper hand. So, lay it on me if you wish to convince me that it isn't true.

However, I do have a few questions for viewers:
I assume none or most of the debunkers, mainly the creator of this site, do not believe any conspiracies at all, am I correct?
Also, what are your views on the growing and prospering of humanity; Do you believe we should change-- to work together?
Do you support a resource-based economy in any way?-- not necessarily The Venus Project.

I believe that is all. Excuse me if this being in General Discussion, there isn't a welcoming forum, which I hoped there would be. I'll post that in the suggestions.

"I'm still debating on whether or not I directly believe the 9/11 conspiracies"

They're extremely offensive. If you choose to believe in Trutherism, you will be a pariah except in Truther circles. Even if 9/11 really was an inside jobbyjob, I'm not sure its worth the alienation.

Besides, it wasn't an inside jobbyjob or the Truth Movement would have something new to tell the world. It doesn't and hasn't for a few years now.

"I assume none or most of the debunkers, mainly the creator of this site, do not believe any conspiracies at all, am I correct?"

There's a difference between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory.

A conspiracy has a beginning and an end. A conspiracy theory has neither.

A conspiracy also has verifiable players with verifiable goals and verifiable methods. A conspiracy theory does not.

"Also, what are your views on the growing and prospering of humanity; Do you believe we should change-- to work together?"

That depends on what your definition of "change" and "working together" is. If by "change" and "working together" you mean forcing everyone into a science fiction utopia they might not even want, then no, I don't believe we should change and work together. Not only that, but I'm inclined to believe that I would want to throw a big ole Luddite monkeywrench into it. That's just who I am, and until movements like TVP figure out a way to deal with people like myself, I think its a huge pile of crap.

If by "change" and "working together" you mean improving on the social and economic systems already in place, then sure. I believe we should change and work together.

"Do you support a resource-based economy in any way?"

No.

"I believe that global warming is real and is caused by the activities of human beings."

See, and I am not so sure I agree totally with Muertos on that. I think it is caused by both natural climate cycles and man-made pollution.

The point is not to open up a debate on global warming. The point is simply to show that the idea that skeptics are this unified group of people parroting the "official story" is bunk. It is simply an ego defense mechanism that conspiracy theorists use to rationalize why hardly anyone agrees with them. The same thing applies to skeptics being paid informants or some other such nonsense.

I would love for the scientific community to take conspiracy theories seriously, then I wouldn't have to muddle through their egghead papers. But they don't, so here we are.

"I recently found this site and finally decided to meet some of you."

Well, hello.

"I came here in peace, to see what debunkers and theorists have to say. As I assume everyone else on here does as well, I seek truth. However, truth won't be easy to find, so I believe I may have to stick with believing the most rational theories."

I don't know if I would consider myself a "debunker" in the sense that I don't actively try to debunk conspiracy theories. I'm not a believer in them though, and I hope by "the most rational theories" you aren't implying conspiracy theories.

"I'm still debating on whether or not I directly believe the 9/11 conspiracies (I am a bit indecisive), though the conspiracies do have the upper hand. So, lay it on me if you wish to convince me that it isn't true."

I think a lot of people "fall" for the 9/11 conspiracies because they've heard the official story on the news and this and that... but the only "in-depth" information about the attacks, they'll pick up from Zeitgeist or Loose Change. I can assure you that, though false... both those movies are far more entertaining then reading the NIST report or the 9/11 Commission report. As far as convincing you, I've never ever encountered someone who believed in a conspiracy theory that was able to be turned away from them by someone else. (I'm sure that's not always the case, it's just been my experience with them) I think the only way is to convince yourself, look at the evidence, look at the facts and make up your own mind.

"However, I do have a few questions for viewers:
I assume none or most of the debunkers, mainly the creator of this site, do not believe any conspiracies at all, am I correct?"

As others have pointed out, there's a difference between conspiracies and conspiracy theories.

"Also, what are your views on the growing and prospering of humanity; Do you believe we should change-- to work together?"

I think that co-operation between nations is the only way to make sure that humanity can prosper. The world belongs to all of us, not just one nation, bloc, or country... so we all have to do our part.

"Do you support a resource-based economy in any way?-- not necessarily The Venus Project."

I don't know enough about economics to even venture into this topic, sorry.