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| mikejohnson | Posted: Feb 26, 2010 - 23:03 |
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 Level: 1 CS Original | I am a Christian I know this is not a religion forum but I just want to say Im a Christian who does not believe this New World Order theory. I kknow many Christians do but I would like to point out that I know of Atheists who believe in the New World Order Alex Jones conspiracy theories. | |||||
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| Alphalifestyle | Posted: Feb 27, 2010 - 01:29 |
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Level: 0 CS Original | Yeah, I dont think its a Christian thing. At least not nowadays. In their paranoia, many conspiracy advocates perceive religion in all its form just as another controll mechanism of the NWO. Another arm of the Kraken that controlls them. Another piece of the Pyramide. They see the ominous Illuminati at the top of a Pyramide, under it the control is spread into several subgroups like the Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commision, CFR, FED and at the botton the different "control mechanisms" that brainwash and control the sheeple, like the law system, mass media, "Big Pharma" and of course religion. | |||||
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| Edward L Winston | Posted: Feb 27, 2010 - 01:35 |
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 President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | The modern ideas of what the NWO is primarily originate from the religious right in America, specifically Evangelicals -- via groups like the John Birth Society. Yeah, Alex Jones says he's a Christian, but I'm not certain of any specific denomination, probably "just protestant" | |||||
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| mikejohnson | Posted: Feb 27, 2010 - 01:47 |
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Level: 1 CS Original | It is true that these New World Order conspiracy theories also originate from the Militia movement ? | |||||
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| Edward L Winston | Posted: Feb 27, 2010 - 03:25 |
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President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho: porn star and five-time ultimate smackdown wrestling champion! Level: 150 CS Original | Yes, some do, primarily the ones regarding FEMA camps, international bankers, etc. Traditional NWO beliefs from Evangelicals primarily is in the form of: fear of world government, world currency, fear of loss of US sovereignty -- all from forces within, fear of microchips, fear of depopulation -- basically everything in the Book of Revelation as interpreted by many American Evangelicals. It wasn't until about 1993-1995 that these two things really started merged together, and so you had groups like the John Birch Society and various Militia Movements, some also being racist as well (but not all). That pretty much died out by the end of the 1990s, but because of the rise of September 11th, people who were a part of the previous scenes, like Alex Jones, were able to repackage the same stuff, but this time pretend it had nothing to do with Evangelicism or Militias. By 2003 you had people realizing that they could make serious money with this conspiracy stuff and they stepped up their game to grab as many people as possible, primarily: Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, and of course David Icke. | |||||
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| advancedatheist | Posted: Feb 27, 2010 - 08:48 |
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Level: 3 CS Original | The internet also makes it easier for people with fringe obsessions to find one other, form online communities and reinforce each other's beliefs, no matter how empirically dubious. You can get a sense of how dramatically the media environment has changed in the past two decades by reading Ivan Stang's 1988 compendium of fringe publications, High Weirdness by Mail, published during the height of the 'zine era: http://www.amazon.com/HIGH-WEIRDNESS-MAIL-Ivan-Stang/dp/067164260X</p> Before the internet, you really had to work at it, and spend some money, to acquire that sort of literature from libraries or through the mail. Yet today you can find its modern equivalents in stupefying quantities, as well as audio and video versions, on the web for free. | |||||
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| advancedatheist | Posted: Feb 27, 2010 - 08:57 |
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Level: 3 CS Original | @ Edward: Regarding "depopulation," I thought a lot of these people believe that Jesus will "depopulate" the world of christians at the rapture any time now -- and that they want that to happen to them. | |||||
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