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JoePosted: Aug 31, 2010 - 22:39
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Alex Jones it allowed to run his web sites, sell his DVDs and with the premission of the FCC have a radio show. CTers are able to put shit all over the internet with no fear of it being removed. Nexus and other "alteritive news" magizines can be found at stores like Barns and Noble and Hastings. Hundreds of CT books are published and can found at Barns and Noble and Amizon. But yet they are be censored. How?
If there was some all powerful control group. Gauss what they whould never have been able to get the "truth" out in the first place. Hay if there was such a group there would have not been a internet in the first place.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Aug 31, 2010 - 22:41
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Easy answer: they aren't. If you want to read about censorship, take a look at what happened after the last election in Iran, that's censorship.

Just because a server crashes, someone has an easy password (ChangeDaChannel), or a domain expires, doesn't mean they're being censored. If they were being censored, why would the censor(s) then allow them to talk about how they're being censored?

Don't confuse censorship with melodramatic reactions to non-threatening outside forces. Censorship is a direct action from the State, it isn't deleting one Obama Deception video when there are tons of others on the same site.

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JoePosted: Aug 31, 2010 - 22:52
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It is kind of funny that the "Illuminaiti/NWO" is supposed to be more evil and all powerful as the Sovet Union and Nazi Germany combined. But are unable to put down the "enemies". So Stalin was able to do the Great Purge of his enemies. Hitler was able to do the Night of the Long Knives. But the all powerful Bilderburg Group can not take out Jim Tuker.
That is what I am saying Edward if there was government censorship the Obama Decepion would of never been seen at all. Hell it would have never been made.

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Sil the ShillPosted: Aug 31, 2010 - 23:03
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"Hundreds of CT books are published and can found at Barns and Noble and Amizon."

Just the other day I stumbled upon a book called "Patriots" published by the guy who runs the Survival Blog, it's filled with all sorts of things about the evil gubment, impending martial law and all that other nonsense. But like you said, here it is being openly displayed in a major bookstore chain.

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JoePosted: Aug 31, 2010 - 23:07
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Truthfully I do have mix feelings about this. One it spreads this bulls shit. But at the same time you know that there is no censorship going on.
I saw a copy of End Game at Hastings. And Alex Jones films can be found at Netflex.

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KingDavid8Posted: Aug 31, 2010 - 23:14
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I like to frequent the Zeitgeist boards on YouTube, and there is one that complains about YouTube taking down Zeitgeist anytime someone posts it, accusing them of censorship. People are frequently posting in there that YouTube is secretly owned by the government and is part of the conspiracy to censor Zeitgeist.

Ummm...Zeitgeist has been on YouTube for about 2 years now, in whole and in bits and pieces. It's gotten literally millions of hits on YouTube. In that very forum, it's the first video listed in the suggestions column, so anyone who pops into the forum can *clearly see* that it's on YouTube. But that doesn't stop them from complaining about YouTube "blocking" Zeitgeist.

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JoePosted: Aug 31, 2010 - 23:19
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But as I said if the was censorship Zeitgeist would of never been mad in the first place. If there was a "NWO" I would have to say Tsarist Russia had a better secret police then the "NWO".
I am starting to find it funny when Truthers see a cop car go by. Then they are like oppression, operession! But how meny them have to worry about being sent to Sibbira.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Aug 31, 2010 - 23:20
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And their secret police was pretty shitty too. The NWO has the most perfect secret police: no leaks, ever, at all.

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JoePosted: Aug 31, 2010 - 23:25
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It is so prefect that nobody has ever been taken by them. Or is that what "they" want us to think.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Aug 31, 2010 - 23:27
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Alex Jones and others talk about how people are "already" being rounded up into the "FEMA camps" -- and they've been saying this since at least 1996 when I first heard CTs talking about it, yet no one has ever known anyone ever that's been taken to one. The best "they" could do was gun down Bill Cooper, who, by the way, was shooting at them first.

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JoePosted: Aug 31, 2010 - 23:33
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But Alex does not need no stinking witnesses. He is all knowing.

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duncanlecombrePosted: Sep 01, 2010 - 00:03
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duncanlecombrePosted: Sep 01, 2010 - 00:10
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if they were censoring the internet how come I can get me my illegal music downloads????????

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sorryPosted: Sep 01, 2010 - 00:33
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What is the reason for those sites not loading?

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Sil the ShillPosted: Sep 01, 2010 - 01:13
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"Truthfully I do have mix feelings about this. One it spreads this bulls shit. But at the same time you know that there is no censorship going on."

Well the great thing about this country, (contrary to what CT'ers would have you believe) is that they CAN pretty much say anything they want. Now, I would argue that this is harmful in many ways, but it might even be more harmful if they were censored. So what can we do? Well, I think they best thing is to do what this site and many other sites do... counter the claims with solid facts and evidence, expose the lies that these CT'ers peddle, and hopefully prevent more people from succumbing to the CT'er line of thinking.

As Carl Sagan once pointed out, people from all fields have to deal with their fair share of cranks. Astronomers have to deal with astrologers, Geologists have to deal with Flat Earthers, Biologists have to deal with Creationists, Paleontologists have to deal with Ancient Astronauts, etc., etc.

But I think what makes this different, is that with the exception of creationism... most of this stuff is too fringe for the average Joe (no pun intended), but conspiracy theories seem to be gaining ground in the internet age, and I believe they have the most potential to impact things.

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Harbinger1991Posted: Sep 01, 2010 - 10:27
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Videos on YouTube are deleted all of the time for no good reason, as the site has a broken flagging/DMCA system. It's always funny whenever a conspiracy theorist gets his video removed and claims that it is UNDENIABLE PROOF that YouTube is working with the NWO/Illumanati/Zionists/Reptoids.

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anticultistPosted: Sep 01, 2010 - 12:20
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Its actually rather funny because CT'rs use that flag and DMCA on videos that counter them rather regularly, and you dont hear them complaining about censorship then.

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Edward L WinstonPosted: Sep 01, 2010 - 12:46
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Don't use Def Leppard as background music to your proof 9/11 was an inside job.

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GenogzaPosted: Sep 01, 2010 - 16:26
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As some have pointed out, CT's aren't censored nor should they be. Obviously that would be an attack on freedom of speech, thus I agree with Sil. Counter arguments and facts is all you really need. The majority of the actual people are harmless anyway, so I personally don't care. There's a lot more things I worry about then someone spewing CT's like an Alex Jones. Alex Jones to me, is an entertainer. No more, no less. I actually enjoy listening to how crazy and bat-shit he gets sometimes.

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Olek_LPosted: Sep 02, 2010 - 05:25
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One of my university friends, who was (and propably still is) a right-wing CTer, said to me once, that NWO lets AJ and others run websites, release books, movies and so on, on purpose. According to him, it's sort of a safety valve. They want "freedom fighters" (like him) let off steam and make them harmless, by making them thinking that they are free.

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Harbinger1991Posted: Sep 07, 2010 - 09:30
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Not to mention that some CT'ers disable their comments or set them to approval only.

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